Help with Alleged Eusebius Quote

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2018 3:26 PM

In looking online at Patristic views of Genesis 6:1-4 I have read that Eusebius was responding to the view that “the sons of God” were the descendants of Seth and he allegedly stated, “The original position of the church is correct,” referring to the view that “the sons of God” were angels. I cannot find this quotation anywhere in my Logos library, and the only source of the quotation I can find online is:

Coder, S. Maxwell. Jude – the Acts of the Apostates, Everyman’s Bible Commentary (Moody Publishers, 1967), 38.

I do not own Coder's commentary and cannot find a free preview of page 38 to see if he offers a source. That his commentary keeps being cited rather than a specific point in the writings of Eusebius makes me suspicious that Eusebius never actually said what is being attributed to him. Does anyone have anything legitimate in Logos that comes up as a source for this alleged quote? Thanks!

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 8 2018 3:49 PM

    

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 8 2018 4:21 PM

The problem with the quote above is that Coder does not quote Eusebius, but simply states in passing that, "Eusebius, the great church historian, was one of the men who insisted that the original view of the Church was correct. He compared the narrative of Genesis 6 with stories of Titans and giants in Greek mythology."

S. Maxwell Coder, Jude: The Acts of the Apostates, Everyman’s Bible Commentary (Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1958), 38.

That's why you cannot find the direct quote above, because Coder doesn't give one.  It's just a general observation about Eusebius' view.

Hope this helps!

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 8 2018 8:00 PM

Joseph Turner:
Hope this helps!

Thank you very much, that helps immensely! Case closed. YesCool

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 9 2018 12:56 AM

Although Eusebius never uses the phrase "the original view of the Church was correct", he does say this (Eus., Praep. Ev. 5.4):

And this argument is still further confirmed by Plutarch, in the passage where he says that the mythical narratives told as concerning gods are certain tales about daemons, and the deeds of Giants and Titans celebrated in song among the Greeks are also stories about daemons, intended to suggest a new phase of thought.
Of this kind then perhaps were the statements in the Sacred Scripture concerning the giants before the Flood, and those concerning their progenitors, of whom it is said, *‘And when the angels of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, they took unto them wives of all that they chose,’ and of these were born *‘the giants the men of renown which were of old.’

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 9 2018 3:19 AM

Thanks,  Mark. What you posted is the reference I had found for him, which obviously is slightly different from what I had seen attributed to him! Stick out tongue

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