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Theo | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018 11:10 PM

https://www.logos.com/product/138784/outside-the-bible-3-volume-set-ancient-jewish-writings-related-to-scripture

It has been sitting idle for a while.

Basically a collection of most if not all of the Second Temple Period Literature in one volume!

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Charlene | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2018 3:19 AM

Somehow I missed this! I've placed an order!

Thanks!

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2018 6:41 AM

Looks like an excellent set!

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2018 7:19 AM

I have the set in print. It's incredible! I'm in for the Logos edition as well. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2018 8:14 AM

I've looked at this several times and passed it by (mostly because $200 for 3,300 pages seems overpriced).

It's far from comprehensive, so I'm intrigued why you guys seem to like it so much. Is it for the essays or the translations? (I'm pretty sure I've already got other translations of all the included material.) Could you give me an idea of the length of the introductory essay on let's say Community Rule? Thanks.

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2018 8:31 AM

I've found the commentary and introductory essays to be invaluable. I'm at work now, so I cant pull it off my shelf to give specifics. But, I'll grab some details when I get home, if you'd like. In the meantime, see the below. 

TOC: https://jps.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Outside_the_Bible_TOC.pdf 

Excerpt: https://jps.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/OutsideBibleExcerpt.pdf  

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Theo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 3:59 AM

Thank you all! It has been bumped up quite a bit. We are not far from what I can tell from the next stage! I hope we can continue to get responses.

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Theo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 4:01 AM

Admittedly, it is expensive, but it is on Dr. Michael S. Heiser's recommended reading list (with the distinction of being expensive):

http://drmsh.com/recommended-reading/

He is one of their in-house academic scholars, but plays it very fair in his recommendations according to his field. 

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David Staveley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 8:40 AM

Ken Rutherford:

Admittedly, it is expensive, but it is on Dr. Michael S. Heiser's recommended reading list (with the distinction of being expensive):

http://drmsh.com/recommended-reading/

He is one of their in-house academic scholars, but plays it very fair in his recommendations according to his field. 

Actually, for $200, it is a very, very good deal. I have most of the titles in hardcopy, accumulated over several years. And I must have paid in excess of a $1,000 in total for them. Perhaps even more.

So, my advice to everyone is: grab the deal while you can. It is excellent value for money.

The titles in question are an absolute must for anyone wishing to understand the background cultural and religious climate which underlies the early Jesus movement and the New Testament writings.

Above all things: avoid at all costs the older "standards" that we used to use as reference works on the subject, such as Emil Schürer and Strack-Billerbeck. Not only are they woefully out of date, but they are replete with antisemitism. They give a very distorted picture of Second Temple Judaism. A picture which has been absolutely critically decimated by E. P. Sanders in his ground-breaking Paul and Palestinian Judaism (Part 1).

Dr David Staveley Professor of New Testament. Specializing in the Pauline Epistles, Apocalyptic Judaism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 10:42 AM

Mark Barnes:

It's far from comprehensive, so I'm intrigued why you guys seem to like it so much. Is it for the essays or the translations? (I'm pretty sure I've already got other translations of all the included material.) Could you give me an idea of the length of the introductory essay on let's say Community Rule? Thanks.

Ditto. I've no doubt it's good ... the recommenders are sufficiently bizarre (wouldn't want to risk their reputations), that it has to have something unique, beyond the source.

Saying that surviving 2nd Temple is nesessary to understanding the NT, is curious. Might be (Jude/2Pe). Might not be (Jesus/Paul). Speculative at best.


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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 28 2018 1:35 PM

John Kight:

OK, I'm in. Looking more closely at the excerpt, the commentary looks very worthwhile, even if the introductory essays are thin and the translations taken from elsewhere.

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