Did Logos Lose Rights to the Biblia Hebraica Quinta?

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018 6:28 PM

Question in the title is self-explanatory. I am no longer seeing it for sale on Logos.com. It appears to have been removed from the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions collections. Can anyone at Faithlife comment on the situation? Specifically, will those of us who already purchased it still be receiving updates as the remaining fascicles are published?

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Lucian Benigno | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 10:44 AM

Good question.

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Daniel Motley (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 10:49 AM

Hi all,

We're in the process of reconfiguring BHQ. It will be a little while before it is offered for sale, but I'll post in here once it is.

Sorry for the confusion!

Product Manager, Faithlife

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 1:42 PM

Daniel, glad to know it hasn't gone away for good. Any chance the reconfiguring will include the Genesis fasicle that was released in 2016?

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Daniel Motley (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 1:54 PM

The goal is to definitely have an up-to-date version available for you all!

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Oldnewbie | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 2:06 PM

Daniel Motley (Faithlife):

The goal is to definitely have an up-to-date version available for you all!

If one bought the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions package while BHQ was being reconfigured would we get it automatically when ready or would there be a separate charge?

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Daniel Motley (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 2:59 PM

Oldnewbie:

If one bought the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions package while BHQ was being reconfigured would we get it automatically when ready or would there be a separate charge?

We are still working out the details on how its going to work, but you will not be charged extra for the product that you paid for.

Product Manager, Faithlife

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 5:08 PM

When I bought BHQ it said it included the rest that was still to be released... I’m assuming that‘s how it will work?

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 10 2018 7:03 PM

John Goodman:
When I bought BHQ it said it included the rest that was still to be released

Yes, product page clearly said that the resource would be updated to include the rest of the BHQ as it became available. I have no doubt Faithlife will honor that. 

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 11 2018 12:53 PM

John Goodman:

When I bought BHQ it said it included the rest that was still to be released... I’m assuming that‘s how it will work?

As I recall, the product only included several fascicles of BHQ, some of which were released later only after Logos acquired them from the publisher and produced Logos editions. Unfortunately, we can't look at the product page anymore (at least not on the Logos.com), but I listed the fascicles in another thread. I hope this helps clear things up! Although if Faithlife and the German Bible Society decide to throw in Genesis and the other remaining fascicles, I wouldn't complain!

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/142103.aspx  

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 11 2018 12:57 PM

Well, it looks like this product page is still available: https://www.logos.com/product/17823/bhq-with-critical-apparatus-including-minor-prophets-and-proverbs 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 11 2018 1:17 PM

Adam Olean:

Well, it looks like this product page is still available

It says there "This product is unavailable for purchase at this time."  This should be just temporary.

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 11 2018 6:07 PM

Lee:

Adam Olean:

Well, it looks like this product page is still available

It says there "This product is unavailable for purchase at this time."  This should be just temporary.

Indeed! Although the product page is available, the product is not. I'm really looking forward to the addition of Genesis. It would be a real boon to my study and teaching, Lord willing.

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Oldnewbie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 12 2018 5:09 AM

Daniel Motley (Faithlife):

Oldnewbie:

If one bought the Stuttgart Scholarly Editions package while BHQ was being reconfigured would we get it automatically when ready or would there be a separate charge?

We are still working out the details on how its going to work, but you will not be charged extra for the product that you paid for.

Thank you, Daniel.

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Phil Quigley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 28 2018 8:46 AM

Just curious as to the status of BHQ in Logos. Has there been any movement?

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Nathaniel yates | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 22 2018 8:17 AM

I am curious about this as well. A friend of mine uses Logos and Accordance and BHQ is on Accordance.

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Dennis Toll | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 9 2019 1:35 PM

It's been almost a year since this thread started and several months since the latest response was added. Are there any updates to the situation? Does FL have any hope of working out problems relating to the rights to publish this resource? I realize FL will honor its commitment to update the resource with additional fascicles once they have secured the rights, but nothing will happen for those of us who purchased the product if FL can't. 

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Daniel Motley (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 9 2019 2:21 PM

Dennis Toll:

It's been almost a year since this thread started and several months since the latest response was added. Are there any updates to the situation? Does FL have any hope of working out problems relating to the rights to publish this resource? I realize FL will honor its commitment to update the resource with additional fascicles once they have secured the rights, but nothing will happen for those of us who purchased the product if FL can't. 

Hello Mr. Toll,

We are in the process of working through the issues regarding BHQ. We are currently working internally and with our external partners to be sure to provide a product that lives up to our standards and meets the needs of our users. We don't have an ETA, however, on when all of the issues regarding this product will be fixed. I appreciate everyone's patience on this! Our goal is to make this available again in the near future.

Product Manager, Faithlife

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 9 2019 3:48 PM

It's been awhile, but wasn't there some sort of statement made about how BHW superseded BHQ and BHW was the version FL was using for its default BH text?

EDIT: I just went back and found a thread where Vincent (I miss him) actually advocated for the use of LHB over BHW, but I still seem to recall some comments about BHW being a preferable option to BHQ, though I don't remember exactly why.

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