Logos for Children

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 29 2018 8:21 AM

DAL, this is a good point.

By children, I mean a school aged child from age 8 to 18.  That is a ten year span. 

I have been involved in the National Bible Bee for years now and children of this age group are showing serious interest in learning greek and hebrew, memorizing Scripture, getting study helps etc.  At the moment, they are directed to websites such as BIblehub.com and blueletterbible.org and memverse etc to study.  And yes, 8 year olds are being directed to these sites and are using them to learn how to study God's Word.  They are learning to use tools that are available on these sites to learn biblical languages, use cross references, and commentaries.  There are thousands of young people in this category associated with the National Bible Bee which would be thrilled to be introduced to Logos Bible Program.  There is also the homeschool movement which continues to grow each year.  There are thousands of homeschooled children who could be introduced to Logos BIble Program.  There is also the potential of creating a way for Sunday school teachers to use the program in churches.

The ten year span could be broken up into 3 categories:  Primary age (ages 8-10), Junior age (ages 11-14), senior age (ages 15-18).  Each of these categories are young people who I think we all would like to encourage to be students of the Word of God. 

It would be nice if Faithlife could develop a package that would encompass this age group spanning from age 8-18. There already is enough resources to choose from to develop a simple package for this age bracket.  The package would have to include maps, photos, animations, timelines, videos, audio.  But the target would be to engage a child to see the value of the Logos program and how he/she could use it for a lifetime.

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Andrew Biddinger | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 8 2018 6:41 PM

NEW: Logos comes out with some new children's books: https://ebooks.faithlife.com/christian-kids-books

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 8 2018 9:50 PM

That is great progress that I will be sharing with others.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 8 2018 10:17 PM

Vyrso has always carried children's books... the "new" thing is the design of the website. 

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 12:14 AM

Can anyone recommend book by book, chapter by chapter bible studies for 12-14 year olds?

Thanks in advance

Genghis

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Lonnie Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 1:52 AM

 Genghis-

You may want to check out the "Bible Study Handbook: A Resource For Teaching 175 Stories from the Bible" by John Walton and Kim Walton.

It was written with Sunday school teachers teaching kids about the Bible in mind. 

 https://www.logos.com/product/46950/the-bible-story-handbook-a-resource-for-teaching-175-stories-from-the-bible

 

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 7:48 AM

Andrew Biddinger:

NEW: Logos comes out with some new children's books: https://ebooks.faithlife.com/christian-kids-books

I hope that there's a minimum amount of quality control now, to avoid messed up kids books being published.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 3:49 PM

"Cottonmouth and the River," "The Story of Jesus" ($15 whopping dollars), "Lost and Found" are still awaiting readability.  


I do have some 25 or so other books tagged "children's books" that look alright at a glance.  Although the old ones are not fixed, it seems that the others I have are OK for kids to read.  I have a handful of grandkids so far, coming along, and I will soon be deciding about getting them into to Logos.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 4:40 PM

Gao Lu:

"Cottonmouth and the River," "The Story of Jesus" ($15 whopping dollars), "Lost and Found" are still awaiting readability.  

I don't think there are plans to fix Cottonmouth, and the "Story of Jesus". I've been in touch with customer support about both of them already.

"Lost and Found" is clearly broken too. I haven't noticed it before. It also seems that the dead tree version contains a dead versatile disc as well (a.k.a. DVD) with some songs etc.

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 9 2018 6:48 PM

Hi there Gao

From experience, Logos can be intimidating for children younger than 12.  My 10-year-old pretty much limits her use of Logos to keyword searching within Bibles.  My 10-year-old says that most of the articles and resources are not understandable to her.  Fair enough.

My 12-year-old, is the one that uses more of the features in Logos and has set up a prayer list and a reading calendar.

On the other hand, my 14-year-old prefers to do his bible studies through Logos because he has mastered keyword searching and following the cross-references and notes in study Bibles.

I've been looking for book by book, chapter by chapter bible studies for them to do each week.  At their age range, the first goal is just to give them some focus as they read the Bible and see what's in it.

The 14-year-old is reaching an age where he needs to start thinking about the Bible passage meanings and relevance to modern life but he is at the beginning of this so I'm happy to find bible studies that suit 10-14-year-olds that focus on the content and comprehension at this stage.

Most of the stuff that I have seen in faith life e-books focus on topics or are limited to narrative stories rather than taking an expository approach.

I kind of think that such a narrow focus makes it so that children don't realise that the Bible covers quite a wide breadth of life experiences from the mundane such as health and safety, all the way through to the joy of inter-gender relationships.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 10 2018 1:12 AM

For mid teens and later perhaps we can make opportunities for them to prepare to teach others, beginning with morning or evening family devotions.  They could readily use things like:

  • Wilmington's
  • Haley's
  • Ungers
  • Strongs / AMG products
  • Illustrations 
  • Graphics
  • Study Bibles
  • Devotionals

This will engage them with Logos. Soon enough they will be digging for more.

We could...

  1. Create layouts for them with these resources--or teach them how to do it.   
  2. Create collections with resources of interest for them--maybe Logos or anyone of us would consider doing this?
  3. Create Custom Guides that pull up resources of interest to them
  4. Perhaps we need a FL Group where people could contribute such ready-built tools for various purposes.

Just thinking.

Some good Logos resources are here:

I wish Logos sold Bible Study Courses for youth. Perhaps Logos could sell resources from folks like Lifeway.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 4 2019 10:51 PM

You may want to join the new Homeschool Families Faithlife group. We'll be sure to post there about new resources and offers relevant to homeschool families.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 6:04 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

As a father of four young children, two of whom use Logos on mobile devices occasionally, I've been thinking about products for children and families. We're exploring a few ideas and may start testing some in Q3.

We're considering group licensing of certain products to a Faithlife family group, so everyone in your family would be able to access the licenses on their own individual accounts. Not all content would qualify for a multi-user license, but some would—and more would over time.

If you have other recommendations on what kinds of content you'd like to see in a package for kids or a package for families, please keep the suggestions coming.

If you were going to invest in a version of Logos for your family, what price point would make sense for you?

Phil

Gosh it would depend on what it is offered.  Are we talking a subscription model?  ~$10/month?  but I'm one who prefers ownership if at all possible though I can see how sharing might be an issue.  Maybe you can go the route Apple does where you can link accounts under a family and everyone in the family can share the resources but they all have their own accounts at the same time? 

What I would really, really like to see is some high quality children's books.  There are books in FLEB but the ones I've seen the quality is terrible (see this recent post https://community.logos.com/forums/t/181799.aspx).  I know FLEB doesn't equal Logos but I always make an effort to buy books in the FLEB ecosystem first to keep all of my stuff in one place which is really important to me sadly I have to resort to buying things on Kindle as well to get a better quality in some cases, though not always.  The action bible came out really well in FLEB if you ask me but the storybook version is just bad.  I really hope you do move forward with this and can get some of this stuff into Logos, FLEB, FLTV, etc.  My family uses RightNow for a lot of videos but maybe you can partner w/ them one day?

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 6:53 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
If you have other recommendations on what kinds of content you'd like to see in a package for kids or a package for families, please keep the suggestions coming.

Would it make sense for marketing purposes to do a cross-over package with Logos editions and Faithlife ebooks? I'm thinking that Faithlife ebooks like the Sugar Creek Gang series would appeal to younger kids while many of the Noet titles may appeal to parents teaching literature to High School students.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 7:14 AM

David Thomas:
I'm thinking that Faithlife ebooks like the Sugar Creek Gang series would appeal to younger kids while many of the Noet titles may appeal to parents teaching literature to High School students.

Yes

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 11:11 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're considering group licensing of certain products to a Faithlife family group, so everyone in your family would be able to access the licenses on their own individual accounts. Not all content would qualify for a multi-user license, but some would—and more would over time.

This is just awesome! Sounds like an acceptable solution to this UserVoice suggestion. 

Concerning great family oriented content, please consider getting the entire Lamplighter Publishers book catalog. It would be awesome if their audiobooks could be licensed as well.

Edit: If the entire catalog is too much, at least get this one collection.😉

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 11:17 AM

Reuben Helmuth:

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're considering group licensing of certain products to a Faithlife family group, so everyone in your family would be able to access the licenses on their own individual accounts. Not all content would qualify for a multi-user license, but some would—and more would over time.

This is just awesome! Sounds like an acceptable solution to this UserVoice suggestion. 

Concerning great family oriented content, please consider getting the entire Lamplighter Publishers book catalog. It would be awesome if their audiobooks could be licensed as well.

Agreed! This would be awesome and I think an easy sell when trying to find news customers.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 11:25 AM

Another idea for content (especially for young boys) are G. A. Henty's great historical fiction books.

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 5 2019 3:29 PM

Thx!

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 10 2019 12:34 PM

Mattillo:

Reuben Helmuth:

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

We're considering group licensing of certain products to a Faithlife family group, so everyone in your family would be able to access the licenses on their own individual accounts. Not all content would qualify for a multi-user license, but some would—and more would over time.

This is just awesome! Sounds like an acceptable solution to this UserVoice suggestion. 

Concerning great family oriented content, please consider getting the entire Lamplighter Publishers book catalog. It would be awesome if their audiobooks could be licensed as well.

Agreed! This would be awesome and I think an easy sell when trying to find news customers.

Yes please, let us know when this happens as we will be all over it for my kids

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