Announcing a Logos 7 base package under $100!

Hi all,

We are pleased to announce Logos 7 Fundamentals, an essentials-only collection of books and features for under $100.

Purposefully lean, this is our package for people who want to dig into Scripture for themselves without getting overwhelmed—and without breaking the bank.

What’s in it?

Logos 7 Fundamentals includes 33 books and 75 features and datasets.

The books span audio Bibles, Bible dictionaries and encyclopedias, commentaries, devotionals, theological works, and other biblical studies books (such as The Eerdmans Companion to the Bible). Fundamentals offers the breadth of what a good Bible study library should have but leaves the depth to other base packages, so that it remains more affordable.

Who’s it for?

If you’re a long-time Logos user, it’s for the person whom you’ve told, “You should really get Logos,” and they respond, “I just don’t think I need something that intense, plus it’s so expensive.”

We purposefully designed this base package to be entry-level, perfect for someone who is serious about Bible study but knows the higher base packages offer more than they need.

Call our Resource Experts at 888-875-9491 to learn more about Fundamentals and how to give it as a gift, or send this link to your friends: logos.com/fundamentals.

Should I buy it if I have other base packages?

You might want to. This base package is somewhat independent of the higher base packages, so if you have another Logos 7 base package, you might not own everything in Fundamentals.

As always, books are cheaper when bundled in a base package, and Dynamic Pricing applies. Your price will adjust to account for resources you already own, so head over to the product page to see your price.

Fundamentals may not be the base package for you, but it could be the one for many people you know. Send people to www.logos.com/fundamentals to encourage them to check it out!

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Randy W. Sims

Nice package. Seems to cover the bases nicely. (creeds?)

I got the CSB Interlinears for $3.84. The CSB Bible is not listed under Bibles, it's all the way down under Other.

Seems like the target market might be the type more comfortable on Web/Mobile so it might be nice to feature in the the mobile Store front.

Verbum edition?

EastTN

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986338#Comment_986338

This is a very good move, and one that's been long needed. I would not be a Logos user today if I'd not bought a low-cost introductory package years ago when they were still sold in boxes at Christian bookstores. This makes it much easier to recommend that a layperson try Logos as a study tool.

James McAdams

Shared liberally. Good work!

Shannon L. Newsome

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986340#Comment_986340

This is awesome! It is indeed so much easier to encourage someone to try Logos with this price tag!

James McAdams

Assuming Logos 8 comes out in the next couple of months, though, it’s bound to cause a bit of confusion. Obviously most forum members know that software updates are free, but there’s a definite risk that new buyers might feel a bit hard done by if they buy this and see what looks like a big upgrade getting released straight afterward, even if it would make no difference feature-wise at their price range.

It’s already come up on Facebook group I’m part of. Just thinking out loud, really.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986343#Comment_986343

Assuming Logos 8 comes out in the next couple of months, though, it’s bound to cause a bit of confusion. Obviously most forum members know that software updates are free, but there’s a definite risk that new buyers might feel a bit hard done by if they buy this and see what looks like a big upgrade getting released straight afterward, even if it would make no difference feature-wise at their price range.

When L7 came out, FL offered credit to customers who recently had purchased L6. Not sure if they’ll do the same this time, but it might help to take the sting out of upgrading from L7 to L8 within a few months.

Of course, new buyers could wait until L8, then simply get L8 Fundamentals. If you’ve waited this long to buy Logos, what’s another 2-3 months?

James McAdams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986345#Comment_986345

When L7 came out, FL offered credit to customers who recently had purchased L6. Not sure if they’ll do the same this time, but it might help to take the sting out of upgrading from L7 to L8 within a few months.

Of course, new buyers could wait until L8, then simply get L8 Fundamentals. If you’ve waited this long to buy Logos, what’s another 2-3 months?

I’m not too worried about the people who know Logos 8 is coming out - if they jump on board now they do so willingly. But if you’ve just bought it and an update comes out that (you think) you’re expected to pay for, a discount lessens the pain but doesn’t cancel it.

I’m not worried about the people I talk to - I can explain why this is a non-issue. It’s just that I can understand people feeling confused/let down if this is all new to them and they don’t have that kind of intro.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986338#Comment_986338

I got the CSB Interlinears for $3.84. The CSB Bible is not listed under Bibles, it's all the way down under Other.

[Y]

Also agree there should be a Verbum fundamentals.

Mark Smith

This is a great collection of resources and just what Faithlife has needed for some time. You've chosen some quality resources. I can't believe the Baker Encyclopedia is included. That's $139 on it's own. Topical guides, maps, a good commentary or two, good modern translations, reverse interlinears! Lots here to interest a new user or a lay person. Thanks.

Robert M. Warren

Yeah, I got the CSB RIs and a couple of other resources for $8,51. It's a no-brainer; perfect for me.

Leo Wee Fah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986348#Comment_986348

I too got the CSB Interlinears for $3.84... thanks Faithlife[Y]

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986348#Comment_986348

Great decision and collection!!

Richard Villanueva

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986348#Comment_986348

This is a great collection of resources and just what Faithlife has needed for some time. You've chosen some quality resources. I can't believe the Baker Encyclopedia is included. That's $139 on its own. Topical guides, maps, a good commentary or two, good modern translations, reverse interlinears! Lots here to interest a new user or a layperson. Thanks.

Agreed! It doesn't feel like a "cheap" set, but rather smartly priced and very efficient in resource selection. I'll have to share this!

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986347#Comment_986347

I got the CSB Interlinears for $3.84. The CSB Bible is not listed under Bibles, it's all the way down under Other.

Also agree there should be a Verbum fundamentals.

I got the interlinears cheap too, now we need the Verbum Fundamentals MJ Edition too 👍😁👌

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986353#Comment_986353

This is a great collection of resources and just what Faithlife has needed for some time. You've chosen some quality resources. I can't believe the Baker Encyclopedia is included. That's $139 on its own. Topical guides, maps, a good commentary or two, good modern translations, reverse interlinears! Lots here to interest a new user or a layperson. Thanks.

Agreed! It doesn't feel like a "cheap" set, but rather smartly priced and very efficient in resource selection. I'll have to share this!

The conception here is really genius. Just what a newbie would be looking for. I've been with FL for quite some time and I like others find this deal irresistible. Keep plowing in this direction it's a winner! Calling my sales guy now.

Dudley Rose

Very good value and a smart move for Logos.

Robert M. Warren

Another idea one might share with interested friends, is the availability of other modern English translations for $10, in case they like the NIV, NASB, NKJV, NRSV, or NLT. Then, if Logos Basic remains available, they can get Temporary license access to the RIs for all of those by downloading Basic.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986358#Comment_986358

Verbum fundamentals is a great idea I hope comes soon. But kudos for Logos. A great package.

-dan

Liam Maguire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986372#Comment_986372

Another idea one might share with interested friends, is the availability of other modern English translations for $10, in case they like the NIV, NASB, NKJV, NRSV, or NLT. Then, if Logos Basic remains available, they can get Temporary license access to the RIs for all of those by downloading Basic.

We've just done this for an 11-year-old at our church whose recently been baptised. I set him up with a logos account, downloaded basic, and then purchased the NIV for under £10.

Personally, I think the combination of Basic and Fundamentals is brilliant and makes Logos much more accessible to the average churchgoer (especially those who are digital natives). Start with Basic + bible, move on to fundamentals when ready.

FWIW, I won't be recommending Logos to anyone until two things happen:

1. Logos 8 is released to the public (for reason mentioned above)

2. The new notes tool comes out of Beta.

Until then it is too complicated to explain to prospective buyers why notes on the web won't sync to desktop and mobile. It feels like you are selling a half-finished product.

Sean

Thanks for helping me to finally figure out what to do with my birthday credit! Got a book I'd had my eye on plus 7 more for about the same price as the one alone.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986385#Comment_986385

We've just done this for an 11-year-old at our church whose recently been baptised. I set him up with a logos account, downloaded basic, and then purchased the NIV for under £10.

Personally, I think the combination of Basic and Fundamentals is brilliant and makes Logos much more accessible to the average churchgoer (especially those who are digital natives). Start with Basic + bible, move on to fundamentals when ready.

Yes. I got the Basic Package for my two teenage sons. And today upgraded them both to the new Fundamentals package. Glad for these two new options.

Reuben Helmuth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986402#Comment_986402

Super thankful for this recommendable option!

Will this get added to the base package comparison page?

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986403#Comment_986403

Will this get added to the base package comparison page?

I think it might technically not be a base package, but a bundle. I tried one of the "get a free book when you buy a base package" offers on it, and it didn't work.

Except for the forum announcement, it's not referred to as a base package either.

Joseph Sollenberger

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986419#Comment_986419

Have any specs been announced on hardware/storage requirements? My laptop SSD is to the point where I must monitor closely how much more I put on it.

Thanks,

Joseph

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986419#Comment_986419

I think it might technically not be a base package, but a bundle. I tried one of the "get a free book when you buy a base package" offers on it, and it didn't work.

Except for the forum announcement, it's not referred to as a base package either.

Hmm, that sounds like it's going to be another point of confusion. I hope FL resolves that before L8, to simplify figuring out (or explaining) upgrade options.

Right now, we seem to have base packages, libraries, feature sets, essential upgrades, library expansions, feature expansions, and fundamentals. Did I forget anything?

So many (too many) choices for the average customer to understand.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986421#Comment_986421

Did I forget anything?

Subscriptions.

Jesse Blevins

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986385#Comment_986385

I would like to see an upgrade to version 8 when it comes out in this same price range and put together with this same philosophy in mind.

Wordsearch put out their next version upgrade for under 50.00 dollars with a nice book package included.

Daniel Radke

This is a fantastic decision and collection. Like others have said, I have found it hard to convince certain people to pay several hundred dollars to get a Bible study library. This new package should sway much of that concern (at least I hope so), especially for what is included. What has been put into this for under $100 is quite remarkable, actually. Great work, Faithlife! I hope many new people join the Faithlife family with this package [:)] and discover the value and joy there is in knowing God better as a result of engagement with His Word.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986377#Comment_986377

I will echo what others have said, this is a great move. I've always wanted to recommend Logos to my mother but Starter was too expensive and Basic doesn't have enough quality resources and is missing some key features. I do think you should have also included the NIV though. You don't really have a good functional/dynamic equivalent translation, only formal equivalent ones. The CSB may be border line but it is not as widely used and thus would be unfamiliar to many.

I too would love to see a Verbum fundamentals. Everything should be available "in Verbum, as it is in Logos." Lol. Seriously, Verbum and Logos need to be treated equally, it's the same software, just a slightly different interface and different books. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Chris Myers

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986433#Comment_986433

Does this package contain the full feature set? It was unclear to me when I looked at it.

SineNomine

I'd like to join the chorus of people looking forward to Verbum Fundamentals.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986436#Comment_986436

Does this package contain the full feature set? It was unclear to me when I looked at it.

No, it looks like it's somewhere between Basic and Starter in terms of the feature set.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986438#Comment_986438

Does this package contain the full feature set? It was unclear to me when I looked at it.

No, it looks like it's somewhere between Basic and Starter in terms of the feature set.

This is why Fundamentals should be included on the product comparison page as someone above said. So that people can quickly compare and make an informed decision on what is best for them.

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986439#Comment_986439

I got the CSB interlinears. Certainly worth the couple bucks involved. Thanks FL!

Dave Hooton

We purposefully designed this base package to be entry-level, perfect for someone who is serious about Bible study but knows the higher base packages offer more than they need.

But once again, the Biblical Referents dataset is missing (needed for <Person>, <Place>, <Thing> searches).

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986493#Comment_986493

We purposefully designed this base package to be entry-level, perfect for someone who is serious about Bible study but knows the higher base packages offer more than they need.

But once again, the Biblical Referents dataset is missing (needed for <Person>, <Place>, <Thing> searches).

It should be there now.

It probably won’t be on the product page list until tomorrow (it takes a bit for the website to catch up with the back end).

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986385#Comment_986385

This is an excellent addition to the Logos collection of resources. I truly believe that it will motivate more new uses to join the Faithlife family.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986528#Comment_986528

This is an excellent addition to the Logos collection of resources. I truly believe that it will motivate more new uses to join the Faithlife family.

I should be thrilled. I guess I'm 'see what happens'. The book mix looks like an Olivetree or Laridian customer. Definitely not the recent Bibleworks, or Accordance. Maybe in anticipation of the web full operability? And A-Company has really upped its sales quotes. Full Hermeneia at $350 or so. The others not far behind.

I need a reading from JoshRI ! I agreed completely with his points.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986497#Comment_986497

It should be there now.

It probably won’t be on the product page list until tomorrow

It is there now. Well done on the package as a whole.

Adam

My Dynamic price is just under $30 & am strongly considering it but have 2 questions

1. With a Faithlife Connect (No Library) subscription which ends around May next year would it be worth the investment particularly since it seems Logos 8 is around the corner?

2. Is it like a "base package" where if I cancel above subscription do I keep the resources & then "own" Logos 7?

Blessings

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/987021#Comment_987021

Yes it’s worth the investment and yes you keep all the resources and whatever features the package comes with even if you cancel your FL Connect subscription. You would, however, lose any “subscription based features” if you cancel FL Connect (No Library) and any other benefits that come with your subscription, except the free books you got with the monthly coupons.

DAL

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/986358#Comment_986358

now we need the Verbum Fundamentals MJ Edition too 👍😁👌

[:D][Y][:D]

Martin Hall

This really is a great package. If you have purchased any other base packages, Dynamic Pricing is available. Also, through July 23rd, there is a $15 coupon on your home page entitled "Treasure Hunt". This coupon works on this package.

Adam

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/987025#Comment_987025

Yes it’s worth the investment and yes you keep all the resources and whatever features the package comes with even if you cancel your FL Connect subscription. You would, however, lose any “subscription based features” if you cancel FL Connect (No Library) and any other benefits that come with your subscription, except the free books you got with the monthly coupons.

DAL

Thanks DAL I thought as much but doesn't hurt to get advice from the experts!

Paul Lehr

I just noticed this topic and it sounds interesting to have such a "below starter" package for new users. So I was curious on how a new user would find it if they just "showed up" on Logos.com. After looking for it on the various product pages while logged in with my userid, I could not find it unless I used the link from this thread or specifically searched for Logos 7 Fundamentals.

So, I logged out to see if it showed up for someone without a userid since that would probably be your primary market. It showed Logos 7 Basic for free and then skipped to Starter at almost $300. If I were a potential new user, it probably would be good to have this new package inserted between Basic for free and Starter at just under $100. But here on July 26th, almost 2.5 weeks after this thread started, it looks there is no way for someone to know about unless someone told them about it and gave them the link. I kind of doubt that a potential new user would stumble on this thread that is listed under the Support link.

Seems like it should be right out there for anyone to see on the Logos.com web page by now.

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/989021#Comment_989021

I can confirm that. It's the same for users who already have L7 Basic I just logged in with my daughter's ID, and looked at the various options. She has the free L7 Basic, so Fundamentals would be the next best option.

I think there might be a blog post and a Facebook post about Fundamentals, so this thread is not the only possible way to find out about it. But I agree that it could be a lot more prominent.