CP Arabic Grammar Doing Well (for good reason)

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Denise | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jul 29 2018 9:17 AM

Thru-out my Logosian 'career', I've made a point to remind on coming original language type resources.  I recognize, the market is not large. Arabic, quite tiny?

This one: https://www.logos.com/product/38380/a-practical-arabic-grammar 

Logos has two lexicons/dictionaries, both from Perseus. One is interesting; grouped by root. This CP is the first grammar and discussion of the alphabet. It's old, but targeted (apparently) to a growing interest in the Middle East in the mid-1800s. So, it's for 'beginners'.  I want it primarily for the alphabet discussion.

Another resource (not CP) from the same period and fascinating:

https://www.logos.com/product/53236/the-book-of-jonah-in-four-semitic-versions-chaldee-syriac-aethiopic-and-arabic 

You need to be brave for this one, but aimed at hebrew-adept students, for cognate word choices.  It's not in english ... title page is like in Japan ... 'last'. The glossary is good, though the Samaritan font fails in the iPad.

The irony here, is the author is discussed in the just-shipped resource on more NT apocrypha. Acts of the Apostles.


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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 29 2018 9:38 AM

What we really need is something like this grammar and this lexicon.

Https://amzn.to/2K5gQZj 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 29 2018 9:54 AM

Ben:

What we really need is something like this grammar and this lexicon.

Https://amzn.to/2K5gQZj 

Very true!  But maybe tiny steps? Or maybe CP reduces Logos' interest in better choices.

I thought this quote was interesting from the Jonah book above:

"The Masoretic Text itself is in many places obscure, in some to all appearance corrupt; and the only means of getting over at least a part of these difficulties is the study of the other Semitic languages and the comparison of the Translations that exist in them, more especially the Aramaic and Arabic."   

I assume he wasn't sold on the LXX (mid-1800s).


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Glenn Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 29 2018 9:53 PM

Denise:

Thru-out my Logosian 'career', I've made a point to remind on coming original language type resources.  I recognize, the market is not large. Arabic, quite tiny?

This one: https://www.logos.com/product/38380/a-practical-arabic-grammar 

Logos has two lexicons/dictionaries, both from Perseus. One is interesting; grouped by root. This CP is the first grammar and discussion of the alphabet. It's old, but targeted (apparently) to a growing interest in the Middle East in the mid-1800s. So, it's for 'beginners'.  I want it primarily for the alphabet discussion.

Another resource (not C

Thanks, Denise - you convinced me and I placed my bid Smile

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 29 2018 10:48 PM

This recent article says: "solid command of Arabic language has many benefits ranging from a competitive advantage in business to health benefits and improved memory"

https://m.gulfnews.com/news/uae/education/why-as-salamu-alaykum-is-not-enough-1.2257789 

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 30 2018 4:46 AM

Denise:

I assume he wasn't sold on the LXX (mid-1800s).

Some claim that after the switch to the Hebrew OT after 400 ad that many of the Greek OT texts were 'corrected' to match the 'corrupt' Hebrew.

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Leo Wee Fah | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 30 2018 5:49 AM

Denise:

This CP is the first grammar and discussion of the alphabet. It's old, but targeted (apparently) to a growing interest in the Middle East in the mid-1800s. So, it's for 'beginners'.... 

Thanks Yes

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 30 2018 6:38 AM

David Ames:

Denise:

I assume he wasn't sold on the LXX (mid-1800s).

Some claim that after the switch to the Hebrew OT after 400 ad that many of the Greek OT texts were 'corrected' to match the 'corrupt' Hebrew.

'Some' can be at least 2. The 'LXX' (there were many) did indeed get major updates, so their claim was true. As to why, one can only guess. Folks tend to forget the LXX was jewish 'owned' ... the diaspora, and even Jerusalem. So, maybe like the Hasmonians, a 'back to hebrew' became the call of the rabs after God destroyed Zion again.

Added:

The Jonah book above is only aramaic (chaldee) ... Logos seems to have forgotten the other 3 (but the glossary is 4 plus refs to Samaritan and Sanscript). 


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HJ. van der Wal | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 31 2018 12:19 PM

Shalom Denise!

Denise:

The Jonah book above is only aramaic (chaldee) ... Logos seems to have forgotten the other 3

I know NB.Mick already responded in another thread, but for anyone stumbling across this thread: Logos has split "The Book of Jonah in Four Semitic Versions" into four separate resources (as indicated on the product page):

Aethiopic - https://ref.ly/logosres/minprowrightaeth?ref=Page.p+iii 

Arabic - https://ref.ly/logosres/minprowrightarab?ref=Page.p+iii 

Syriac - https://ref.ly/logosres/minprowrightsyr?ref=Page.p+iii 

Chaldee - https://ref.ly/logosres/minprowrightchal?ref=Page.p+iii 

Denise:

This one: https://www.logos.com/product/38380/a-practical-arabic-grammar 

Logos has two lexicons/dictionaries, both from Perseus. One is interesting; grouped by root. This CP is the first grammar and discussion of the alphabet. It's old, but targeted (apparently) to a growing interest in the Middle East in the mid-1800s. So, it's for 'beginners'. I want it primarily for the alphabet discussion.

Yes I have had a bid in since 7/9/2015.

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