Lexham titles that aren't in Logos or Faithlife Ebooks

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pk47 | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018 9:34 PM

I'm truly confused why there are over a dozen titles published by Lexham that haven't found their way into the Faithlife ecosystem. Why offer on kindle but not Faithlife ebooks? Anyone familiar with the logic behind this?

Here is one such book as an example (Sorry, the insert isn't working for me)

https://www.amazon.com/Shining-Like-Sun-Biblical-Theology-ebook/dp/B07HCV9RVL/ref=sr_1_118?ie=UTF8&qid=1538799838&sr=8-118&keywords=lexham+press

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 5 2018 9:46 PM

This is how I see it: Faithlife is encouraging me to buy books on different platform instead of their. 

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doc | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 5 2018 11:32 PM

There is no logic. This is simply FL being FL and once again not putting their loyal customers first. I’m all for them selling books on kindle or other platforms but not on other platforms while excluding them from being in Logos format. FL disappointing their customers once again.

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 8:15 AM

Here is the book pk47 mentioned:

https://www.amazon.ca/Shining-Like-Sun-Biblical-Theology/dp/194133752X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1538838268&sr=1-1&keywords=shining+like+the+sun

To not offer all these volumes to loyal FL people is disrespectful.  U listening, FL??

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Adam Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 10:21 AM

This question has been addressed in another thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/172212/994642.aspx 

Essentially, FL acquired the back catalogue of Weaver Book Company (including this title) earlier this year. As they are new acquisitions, the Logos editions are still in development, but the already-existing formats are already available on Amazon and elsewhere.

(Happy to be corrected by anyone at FL if I've misunderstood).

So, I'm not sure this is an example of FL being disloyal to its customers, although I agree the situation is a bit frustrating.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 10:31 AM

scooter:

Here is the book pk47 mentioned:

https://www.amazon.ca/Shining-Like-Sun-Biblical-Theology/dp/194133752X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1538838268&sr=1-1&keywords=shining+like+the+sun

To not offer all these volumes to loyal FL people is disrespectful.  U listening, FL??

Adam is right in his link to a thread where it is explained by Faithlife. You could have seen in your own Amazon link that the publisher of this print edition was Weaver, not Lexham. I belief we will see those books in the Logos environment soon (after contracts are checked and maybe amended, and - unless a book comes to the ebook store - tagging has been applied).                    

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Jake Mailhot | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 11:05 AM

Adam and NB.Mick are correct. There are a number of titles acquired from Weaver that have not yet completed production in Logos format. They should be available soon.

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 11:58 AM

NB.Mick:
You could have seen in your own Amazon link that the publisher of this print edition was Weaver, not Lexham.

I figured Weaver was an imprint of Lexham.  Lexham is an imprint of FL.

Edit:  The question is whether FL put up a Weaver page telling us of this.  If they did, I never saw it.  Nor did I see the previous forum thread discussing this situation.  To me, this is a situation where FL would have been better served out-fronting this information in a very obvious manner: a positive for customerville, as it is for the company.

Explaining something in the forums is tantamount to not explaining it, as the information is hidden.  

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 3:27 PM

May I suggest a trade-off?

As users, we would prefer not to be driven to buy Logos produced resources on the Kindle store.

As Faithlife, you don't want to sell cheap ebook editions on the Logos ecosystem, when full Logos resources are being produced.

I hope I have summarized both positions accurately.

Would the following idea be reasonable?

The ebook editions could be made available on Logos now, however, not at the ebook price, but at the full price, that the resources would cost after all the tagging has been done.
Once the Logos edition is completed, the users who have previously purchased the ebook edition, would receive an update to their resource.

Like that, all users who want the books now can haven them now in Logos, and don't have to go to the competition.

And Faithlife would not sell fully tagged Logos editions below price.

In theory, everyone should be happier with this solution compared to the current situation.

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 5:08 PM

Jan Krohn:
The ebook editions could be made available on Logos now, however, not at the ebook price, but at the full price, that the resources would cost after all the tagging has been done.
Once the Logos edition is completed, the users who have previously purchased the ebook edition, would receive an update to their resource.

Great idea, Jan !!

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doc | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 6 2018 7:33 PM

Jake Mailhot:

Adam and NB.Mick are correct. There are a number of titles acquired from Weaver that have not yet completed production in Logos format. They should be available soon.

Thank you for clarifying the situation and apologies for the harsh words.

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