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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2018 12:12 PM

Though everything is working as fast as it was, this is not true for the Passage Guide, at least for me it isn't. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm noticing it takes up to 8 seconds whereas before it was almost instantaneous. 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 29 2018 12:18 PM

First of all I right mouse click on any of he sections and collapse all. This way the PG opens with all sections closed. There are a few sections that are still slow such as Bible Places, Topics, etc. I do not want these populating until and unless I want to use them. So, yes there are a few sections in the PG that take time to populate. The trick is to make sure they only populate if you are going to use them by having all sections collapsed at opening.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 29 2018 12:18 PM

Bootjack:

Though everything is working as fast as it was, this is not true for the Passage Guide, at least for me it isn't. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm noticing it takes up to 8 seconds whereas before it was almost instantaneous. 

Are you done indexing?

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 29 2018 2:46 PM

John, I think you hit the home run on this. I collapsed on all but the Commentaries and that did the trick. After I read what you said, I think I remember being told this a long ways back. It might have even been you. 

David, it had indeed finished indexing but I took both pieces of advice and rebuilt the index. Appreciate both replies & the help. Thanks! 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 29 2018 2:47 PM

Glad that the work around helped.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:07 AM

Finding out the Passage Guide does not save after restarting computer. I've collapsed everything in there but the Commentaries and that works. But upon rebooting, I'm finding I have to collapse them all again. I've collapsed them then again and simply shut down Logos then restarted. I'm finding everything that was previously collapsed isn't anymore. 

Would this be a bug or is there something else that I am not doing correctly? 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:10 AM

Bootjack:
Would this be a bug or is there something else that I am not doing correctly? 

I honestly don't know what the intended behavior is, but if it doesn't work for you, report it as a bug ... Faithlife needs the feedback ... being silent means Faithlife doesn't know it isn't optimum for all users.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:13 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. Please inform me again as to where I report this. Also, you say you do not know what the intended behaviour is. Do you mean by that you're not sure what I'm attempting to do? 

(Found out how to report this - sorry for asking that question) 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:21 AM

Bootjack:
Also, you say you do not know what the intended behaviour is. Do you mean by that you're not sure what I'm attempting to do? 

No, I mean I don't know what behavior the programmer was asked to build in ... most of the time, the specifications can easily be guessed. Here I can't make a well-founded guess.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:24 AM

Understood. Have you found it is doing the same on your system?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:25 AM

yes

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:39 AM

Bootjack:

Understood. Have you found it is doing the same on your system?

Bootjack,

I am on macOS Mojave, after reading your post, I tried both restart Logos + reboot machine and restart Logos. I found the collapsed section works as expected. My screen shot here:

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:40 AM

Bootjack:
Finding out the Passage Guide does not save after restarting computer. I've collapsed everything in there but the Commentaries and that works. But upon rebooting, I'm finding I have to collapse them all again.

No problem with saving/resuming the state of my PG; which is part of my layout. Also no problem if I close it before exiting Logos, and then re-open it. I don't have many sections (8), and always keep clear of web-based sections. 

If you don't often use certain sections, then Remove them. Use Add if you want them back. This behaviour is different to L7, because the state is saved without having to edit a guide template. Consequently, you don't have to create a customized Guide, and can continue to use the system Passage Guide.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 1:48 AM

I find it interesting that LimJK's system is saving it with no problems. This has me a bit confused as to why one system works and another isn't. 

I see I can edit out ones I do not use. So am I understanding you correctly Dave, to say unlike Logos 7, Logos 8 is not saving what we collapse upon restarting the program? But then I have to ask, why is LimJK's system saving it or is that because he has edited out some of those options that are not needed. Maybe you can answer tha LimJK. Thanks for the replies. 

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 3:04 AM

Bootjack:

I find it interesting that LimJK's system is saving it with no problems. This has me a bit confused as to why one system works and another isn't. 

I see I can edit out ones I do not use. So am I understanding you correctly Dave, to say unlike Logos 7, Logos 8 is not saving what we collapse upon restarting the program? But then I have to ask, why is LimJK's system saving it or is that because he has edited out some of those options that are not needed. Maybe you can answer tha LimJK. Thanks for the replies. 

Bootjack,

I don't know ... I am a fellow user like you, only used Logos 8 for a couple of hours. You shared the issue, I am merely trying repeat what you do to see if it is a common problem to all or just a specific problem to you. I am on macOS Mojava, I think Dave is on Windows ... we may need to let the folks from Logos to look into it (might want to contact tech support). Hope you have your issue resolve soon.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 5:18 AM

Thank you for your reply LimJK. What you're showing me from your picture seems to say it's isolated. I've reported it as a bug and Dave's solution will work like a manual override. 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 5:42 AM

Bootjack,

Mine saves in the state I closed it. However, I have made adjustments (edited) the PG. Try opening the PG, collapsing all sections and then just move by dragging one of the sections up or down, than close it and reopen. This should save the PG.

I am on Mac using OS High Sierra.

Hope this helps.

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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 11:07 AM

Weird and wonderful John. Your solution did the trick but it leaves me to ask why does that fix the problem & how did you happen to light upon that fix. The latter question you can plead the fifth. 

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Marvin Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 11:19 AM

John, I too am on a Mac using Mohave. Just wondering if your Favorites folders open "expanded" regardless of how many times you collapse and close them. I'm not sure if this is unique to my machine or if its a problem in the IOS

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 30 2018 11:28 AM

Bootjack:

Weird and wonderful John. Your solution did the trick but it leaves me to ask why does that fix the problem & how did you happen to light upon that fix. The latter question you can plead the fifth. 

I think it is a bug and just guessed at the work around. I have tweaked my PG and EG and saved them. I guessed that if you tweaked yours it may resolve your issue. There is another thread that the bug is being reviewed.

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