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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 21 2010 2:29 PM

I just came across something called the Daily Office Lectionary when I looked at the ESV Bible on-line.  A brief description is included with the reference that I found:

Daily Office Lectionary   

This plan follows the Daily Office Lectionary found in The Book of Common Prayer (1979) used worldwide by Anglicans and Episcopalians.

Today's (May 21, 2010) reading included the following passages:

First Psalm: Psalm 102 
Second Psalm: Psalm 107:1-32
Old Testament: Jeremiah 31:27-34
New Testament: Ephesians 5:1-20
Gospel: Matthew 9:9-17

Is this included in the LOGOS L4 library?  I do not see it listed under this name; but since I do not know much about the liturgical church, I thought I would ask.  Thanks for any information that you can give.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 2:32 PM

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 2:36 PM

Dan DeVilder:
<crackle pop hiss> "paging MJ . . . paging MJ . . ."

Yeah - that is who I was thinking of, but then I have learned never to overlook the less than obvious.Smile  I would accept the answer from anyone who would answer.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 7:11 PM

Floyd Johnson:
I just came across something called the Daily Office Lectionary when I looked at the ESV Bible on-line.

No, none of the daily office readings are currently in Logos. While I have collected the information from the Book of Common Prayer, The Book of Lesser Feasts, Alternative Service Book (take the titles with a grain of salt. They are close). The only Anglican resource actually started is the Joint Liturgical Group's Four Year Lectionary. I'm still looking for a copy of the JLG's 2 year lectionary.

If I'd stay off the forums and concentrate on proof-reading you'd start to see the results of the work.Big Smile

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Rebecca RG | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 10:25 PM

The Book of Common Prayer (1979) is the prayer book of the Episcopal Church USA.  It is similar to the prayer books of other Anglican churches worldwide.

A useful page of lectionary resources is The Lectionary page.  It includes a number of excel spreadsheets containing various lectionary databases, including both years of The Book of Common Prayer (1979) Daily Office.

Here is the Daily Office Year 1 lectionary (begins with Advent before odd-numbered years)  7823.daily_lectionary1.xls

And Daily Office Year 2 (begins Advent even-numbered years)  4617.daily_lectionary2.xls.

Your readings are those for Friday, week of 7 Easter in the Year 2 database, if I have attached those files correctly.

These are guaranteed not to be in the format required for Logos!  Somebody who knows Excel might be able to reformat without re-entering everything.  If not, I have volunteered and will find the time this summer sometime.

As in this database, the canticles are not usually specified for the daily office.  There is no standard practice for canticles.

Rebecca

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 10:33 PM

Rebecca RG:

The Book of Common Prayer (1979) is the prayer book of the Episcopal Church USA.  It is similar to the prayer books of other Anglican churches worldwide.

These are guaranteed not to be in the format required for Logos!  Somebody who knows Excel might be able to reformat without re-entering everything.  If not, I have volunteered and will find the time this summer sometime.

Rebecca

I have three people working on getting a variety of lectionaries into Excel or XML. You are correct that some tables can be converted and loaded into Excel but there are a number of additional matters - front matter, calendar, etc. I've I don't get to the Anglican material, let me know and we can coordinate how we present the material to Logos.

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Rebecca RG | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 10:59 PM

You could take a look at the Year 1 and Year 2 lectionary xls files I attached and determine if they are a starting point..  I'm willing to work on them as I have time, because I want the daily office lectionary in Logos. Your group is also welcome to the files as is or as modified, whenever you are ready to take them up.  I can do very simple excel editing, but someone else will need to do anything more than that.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 11:34 PM

Rebecca RG:
You could take a look at the Year 1 and Year 2 lectionary xls files I attached and determine if they are a starting point.

I have - thank you for supplying them. We will use them as a base.

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William | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 22 2010 12:19 AM

MJ. Smith:
If I'd stay off the forums and concentrate on proof-reading you'd start to see the results of the work.Big Smile

What proof-reading are you referring to?  Why not just let us do it for you and you can make the changes all at once?  Maybe i am just off track with this idea. 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 22 2010 11:18 AM

thank you all, for your interest and effort in this.  I am a relative lectionary newbie, but I like to use them and any resources that we could have within Logos would be great.

For those who would like a good resource in Logos that deals with Worship and makes use of the lectionary--and the arts--check this out:

http://www.logos.com/products/details/2228

it is a trans-denominational work, examining everything from Eastern Orthodoxy to Church of Christ.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 22 2010 12:14 PM

William Bingham:
What proof-reading are you referring to? 

Proof-reading of the Excel sheets to send to Logos for them to create additional lectionaries. The ones I am working on currently are:

  • Lutheran Book of Worship 1978 Daily Lectionary
  • The Methodist Hymnal 1935 tables of readings
  • Current U.S.A. Latin rite Catholic Daily lectionary including sanctoral cycle and antiphons

Ones that are essentially done except for basic front material and notes for Logos were chosen to go early because they present interesting problems:

  • Lewis' Palestinian Syriac Lectionary
  • Jewish 1 year cycle of readings (Ashkenazi)
  • Jewish 1 year cycle of readings (Shepardic)
  • Season of Creation supplemental lectionary
  • World Council of Churches/Catholic readings for the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity

There are about 30 in other states - some with typos that I need the source to correct; some partially entered, many simply found. Some of the most difficult to track down are like the last proposed Presbyterian lectionary which was only a few years prior to the adoption of the RCL or the two year Joint Liturgical Group lectionary. Now if I manage to make this an excuse for a trip to the GTU library in Berkeley ...

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 22 2010 12:16 PM

Dan DeVilder:

For those who would like a good resource in Logos that deals with Worship and makes use of the lectionary--and the arts--check this out:

http://www.logos.com/products/details/2228

it is a trans-denominational work, examining everything from Eastern Orthodoxy to Church of Christ.

I'll add my recommendation to this as well.

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William | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 23 2010 2:58 AM

MJ. Smith:

Proof-reading of the Excel sheets to send to Logos for them to create additional lectionaries. The ones I am working on currently are:

  • Lutheran Book of Worship 1978 Daily Lectionary

If you want to send the Excel sheet for this I will proof it.  I have 4 different WELS churches here and many other LCMS churches in town to get any other materials that might be needed.  Just send it along and I will try to help you out.  My address is luvmath03 at yahoo

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Peter Jonas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 26 2010 9:29 AM

I am thrilled that folks are working on daily lectionary projects.  Is anyone working on the Daily readings for the revised common lectionary?  Many ELCA Lutherans are using these readings now that they have been adopted into our new hymnal.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 26 2010 10:53 AM

PeterJonas:
Is anyone working on the Daily readings for the revised common lectionary? 

It is next in line behind the JLG's 4 year lectionary. I also have it's predecessor, the unofficial Ramshaw lectionary that several Lutheran churches used before the RCL daily came out. I did not realize that the daily RCL was in the ELCA's hymnal now. Thanks for the information.

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Greg B | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 13 2010 7:01 AM

0714.BCP_Lectionary_1.xls

I was playing around with the 1928 BCP Lectionary.  I got as far as the attached spreadsheet.  Would it be of any value to continue it?

Greg

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 13 2010 2:36 PM

GregoryBednarchik:
I was playing around with the 1928 BCP Lectionary.  I got as far as the attached spreadsheet.  Would it be of any value to continue it?

Yes with a couple of caveats:

You need a column that indicates the date (1st Sunday in Advent etc.). And you don't need to repeat the column heading on each entry ... although the way you are doing it it is easily removed. So yes, please go ahead. When you have it completed I'll tell you who to send it to at Logos and add it to our "forum status report".

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Greg B | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 10:53 AM

4370.BCP_Lectionary_1.xls

Thanks.  I set up the 1st two weeks.  Could you confirm that this is the necessary format.  Column E will be deleted in the final, I am just using it as a reference as I work.  Also, Sundays have two sets of propers, I added a column to designate each set.  Is this ok, or is there something else I should do to handle that?  Should I fill in a value for the days of the week which only have one set?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 14 2010 11:35 AM

GregoryBednarchik:
I added a column to designate each set.  Is this ok, or is there something else I should do to handle that?  Should I fill in a value for the days of the week which only have one set?

Yes, you've got the format down fine. The way you are handling Sundays is just fine and no, you don't need to add entries for other days.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 16 2010 4:56 AM

MJ. Smith Replied

I have three people working on getting a variety of lectionaries into Excel or XML

There are about 30 in other states

 

Can we assume that almost every ‘group’ has tried its hand at writing their own?

 

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