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Josiah | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 7 2018 10:55 AM

Important Passages is awesome (Cross References with New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge used to be my first step after reading a passage, now it has been eclipsed).  Important Words / Lemma in Passage are also great.  If the plan is for all new commentaries to be tagged and supported here, that's incredible.  New Notes was much needed and appreciated.  Also seem to be some minor improvements to various other guide sections that I previously used.  Workflows/Canvas/etc are misses for me, but Important Passages alone is worth the upgrade, so whatever.  Great work, thanks.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 11:43 AM

Awesome to hear that you like so many things about L8! 

Curious why you’d consider workflows a miss? I consider them to be the most valu addition of all, but of course that because I have a very specific need/purpose for them. 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 2:49 PM

Josiah:

Important Passages is awesome (Cross References with New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge used to be my first step after reading a passage, now it has been eclipsed).  Important Words / Lemma in Passage are also great.  If the plan is for all new commentaries to be tagged and supported here, that's incredible.  <snip />

Thanks for the positive feedback, Josiah. Both Important Passages and Important Words/Lemma in Passage are data gathering processes that we periodically run over all the available commentaries (not manual tagging), So, these dataset should continue to be updated as we add more commentaries to Logos.

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Josiah | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 6:58 PM

Reuben Helmuth:

Awesome to hear that you like so many things about L8! 

Curious why you’d consider workflows a miss? I consider them to be the most valu addition of all, but of course that because I have a very specific need/purpose for them. 

Nothing I wasn't already doing with the Passage Guide and my own study workflow.  I'm very self-motivated, so adding a checklist to the various tools and resources I like to go through when digging into a passage, isn't going to make me do it any more.  Probably less because the clicking "Next" gets annoying and sometimes I like to change up the order.  Just like Courses and all their click Next and % Complete, just a meh for me.  I only really use courses to see if any of the referenced sources are worth adding to my wishlist, and then hide them.

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Josiah | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 7:01 PM

Sean Boisen:

Josiah:

Important Passages is awesome (Cross References with New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge used to be my first step after reading a passage, now it has been eclipsed).  Important Words / Lemma in Passage are also great.  If the plan is for all new commentaries to be tagged and supported here, that's incredible.  <snip />

Thanks for the positive feedback, Josiah. Both Important Passages and Important Words/Lemma in Passage are data gathering processes that we periodically run over all the available commentaries (not manual tagging), So, these dataset should continue to be updated as we add more commentaries to Logos.

Yes, that is what the documentation made it sound like.  It's an automatic process, but it's not dynamic.  So basically you'll push it out in batches, as opposed to indexes being rebuilt locally every time we buy a new commentary.  Whatever works, I suppose, as long as the batches are reasonably regular.

I love being able to go through the references type-by-type.  So cool!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 7 2018 9:57 PM

Josiah:
So basically you'll push it out in batches, as opposed to indexes being rebuilt locally every time we buy a new commentary. 

It has no specific tie to what we have in our personal library.

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 3:11 PM

ttached are two screen shots.  One from Morris Proctor videos the other mine.  Using John 1:1 in the passage guide to explain Important Passages. References of All Types To, By Type, Morris shows 'Shared Senses'.  My attempt although have the same number of passages 292 does not show 'Share Sense'.  

What am I missing? 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 4:17 PM

Joe Mayden:

ttached are two screen shots.  One from Morris Proctor videos the other mine.  Using John 1:1 in the passage guide to explain Important Passages. References of All Types To, By Type, Morris shows 'Shared Senses'.  My attempt although have the same number of passages 292 does not show 'Share Sense'.  

What am I missing? 

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There aren't any shared senses for John 1:1, so that section isn't displayed. If you pick a larger passage, you should generally see them. Here's an example for John 1:1-18.

I'm not sure why Morris Proctor's video shows this: maybe it was made from an earlier version of the data.

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You aren't missing anything. The Morris Proctor videos were shot before significant changes were made to filter out a lot of non-significant data.

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 5:56 PM
  1. Overall, Logos 8 is quite good. The performance improvement is especially appreciated.
  2. I like the new look and interface, though the home page needs a lot more functionality. (You know that, though, and I can wait.)
  3. Version 8 of the web app has been improved dramatically. I really think this is one point you need to be promoting more.
  4. On the other hand, the Theology Guide probably should not have been released in its present very limited condition.
  5. I like the changes to the Library interface and the faceted sorting. It's really helping me to sift through the contents of my library.
  6. Anglican Silver is a very nice base package.
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Bootjack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 8 2018 7:40 PM

Logos 8 is definitely 110% plus. I've noticed the old "not responding" a couple times in the Exegetical Guide but still, the program overall is totally powerful.

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