Problems with Collections

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Mike Cahill | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2018 6:09 AM

Hey all, 

Just updated to Logos 8 - getting used to it. Went to add a collection and it won't allow me to drag and drop resources into plus or minus columns - any advise? 

Thanks 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 6:27 AM

Where are you dragging from?

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Mike Cahill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 10:19 AM

Mark, 

I was just trying to drag it from within the collections box itself. I established a rule, books showed up in the resources box below and I wanted to drag one or two into the minus these resources column and it wasn't working. I thought perhaps someone else had the same trouble. 

Thanks 

MC

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 10:34 AM

Mike Cahill:
I was just trying to drag it from within the collections box itself

You need to drag resources from the Library panel

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Mike Cahill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 11:00 AM

So, do I have to create a new rule for a book to be erased from the resource collection? Or do I look up that book in the library and then drag it to minus these resources - that seems clunky to me - why when I have a list of resources would I have to open a different panel to minus resources that are already listed below

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Mike Cahill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 11:04 AM

Also, having watched Morris Proctor - he has a video that shows the ability to drag the resulting collection to the plus and minus boxes from the Collection Panel. 

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Mike Cahill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 11:07 AM

I just tried it again, and it is like it begins to drag but blips out shortly after - strange. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 12:28 PM

Mike Cahill:
Also, having watched Morris Proctor - he has a video that shows the ability to drag the resulting collection to the plus and minus boxes from the Collection Panel. 

Apologies - that is correct, I wasn't aware you could do that.

So, yes, you should be able to drag resources from the "Resulting Collection" pane to either the plus or minus areas.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 12:29 PM

Mike Cahill:

I just tried it again, and it is like it begins to drag but blips out shortly after - strange. 

Can you expand on that please? It is working for me

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David J. Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 1:45 PM

The problem seems to exist with some resources with long titles.
Short titles seem to drag and drop without any such problem.

This is beginning to be a significant issue given the number of recent titles which are getting very lengthy with the addition of secondary titles after a colon.  I expect Logos is needing to extend the title lengths to these days to minimize confusion between similar titles, especially those involving translations of ancient works by different translators.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2018 10:37 PM

David J. Wilson:
The problem seems to exist with some resources with long titles.
Short titles seem to drag and drop without any such problem.

I still can't reproduce a problem using: 

"1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther: Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary (Old Testament), Volume 3"

I'm on a MacBook Pro running High Sierra and using the trackpad with 3 finger drag. Also, I'm on Logos 8.1 b4, so I guess it's possible that it's a bug that's been fixed (though I haven't seen it mentioned in the release notes). If hardware/software/resource details were listed whenever this was experienced, maybe we could see a pattern(?).

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David J. Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 8 2018 6:55 AM

Try this one: (just as an example re the drag and drop problem)
Make a collection of "Black's New Testament Commentary BNTC" using the Start with resources matching series:"Black's New Testament Commentary"

First drag the Epistle to the Ephesians from the Resulting Collection to + Plus these resources (should be no problem)
Now try and drag and drop the First and Second Epistles to the Thessalonians (will not drop on my system)

Seems to be a threshold re titles containing the colon.

Using Logos 8 build 8.0.0.0591 (SR-2) on Windows 10 Home, version 1803 (build 17134.407)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 8 2018 7:18 AM

David J. Wilson:

Try this one: (just as an example re the drag and drop problem)
Make a collection of "Black's New Testament Commentary BNTC" using the Start with resources matching series:"Black's New Testament Commentary"

First drag the Epistle to the Ephesians from the Resulting Collection to + Plus these resources (should be no problem)
Now try and drag and drop the First and Second Epistles to the Thessalonians (will not drop on my system)

As you can see it works fine for me - I am running the RC2 release of 8.1 on Windows 10 but I don't think there have been any changes in this area

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David J. Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 8 2018 11:16 AM

Thanks for trying this Graham: not going to be easy to track down but obviously now an issue for more than just me.

DaveJ

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