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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Dec 9 2018 2:06 PM

https://www.logos.com/product/165945/the-greek-new-testament-produced-at-tyndale-house-cambridge

I’m enoying reading this on the esv website... I placed my pre-order for the logos ed a while ago. Is thee an ETA?

The page lacks detail but can we expect tagging? Apparatus? Interlinear functionality? All these features are freely available on the esv site... I don’t mind to pay for them but it would be a shame to pay for a less functional version.

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גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 9 2018 3:43 PM

Says it includes the apparatus. 

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 26 2018 7:00 AM
Anyone from faithlife able to comment on this resource?

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 8 2019 8:54 AM

ETA: It's not a set in stone promise but we're targeting it shipping in March

Apparatus Text: Yes, it will be included.

Morph Tagging: Yes, that is in the plans.

Interlinear: At this point, I don't think we'll be shipping one.

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 10 2019 6:37 AM

Thanks for the update!

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 10 2019 6:38 AM

In the mean time I'm enjoying the premium leather bound edition!

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 10 2019 4:30 PM

John Goodman:

In the mean time I'm enjoying the premium leather bound edition!

John, can you tell me what, in particular, you are enjoying about this edition compared to let's say the NA28?

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Puddin’ | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 2:02 AM

I, too, am really curious if I should spring for this in addition to NA28 & UBS-5.  What does it bring to the table outside of a few variants in the Byzantine tradition (unless I am completely mistaken 😊)?

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 8:27 AM

Pause for thought… why am I enjoying it? I think the reasons are fairly nuanced. I became interested because its simply a new publication on a topic that fascinates me. I’m particularly interested in the experience of reading and praying with a text. I was curious to see what they concluded about certain passages etc. I was also drawn in by the videos at the publication’s website. The very fact of there being some difference of opinion being expressed, draws me into thinking about it etc. There are some features of this text which are nice such as basing the layout on manuscript evidence and not ‘correcting’ spellings.

It was a bit helpful that Faithlife were slow to release it because my wife and parents decided to club together and get me the very beautiful premium leather readers edition for Christmas. I’ve never seen a Geek or Hebrew bible as beautiful as that - it makes my Zondervan bonded leather one look cheap! It’s nearly in the class of Allan or Schuyler. It also has just more than enough helps at the bottom of the page to mean I don’t need a separate reference to understand what I’m reading (actually there is a little too much help but I guess they wanted to broaden the appeal to students beginning their studies). I guess since taking on 3 churches 18 months ago I’ve been a bit over busy and this has slowed me down and got me back into reading in greek again.

I still very much want to get the logos edition to be able to use the text comparison tool and study some of the differences more closely.

So these are all very subtle reasons but if you are as interested in all these subtle issues of text transmission, translation and the experience of reading in greek as I am then you’ll definitely want to pick it up. I’m also looking forward to the textual notes being published, the few I’ve seen were a fascinating read.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 9:06 AM

John Goodman:

beautiful premium leather readers edition for Christmas. I’ve never seen a Geek or Hebrew bible as beautiful as that -

Do you have the ISBN handy on that? Thanks!

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 9:10 AM

Brown cowhide: 1108440487

Black French Moroccan leather: 1108440444

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John Goodman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 9:20 AM

The above Lee posted are the ones with an apparatus... I'm reading 9781433565199 which is the one with reading aids such as glosses and parsing info. You can see sample pages of each over at the tyndale site.

גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 9:25 AM

Thanks for sorting that out!

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 9:50 AM

John Goodman:
Pause for thought… why am I enjoying it? I think the reasons are fairly nuanced. I became interested because its simply a new publication on a topic that fascinates me. I’m particularly interested in the experience of reading and praying with a text. I was curious to see what they concluded about certain passages etc. I was also drawn in by the videos at the publication’s website. The very fact of there being some difference of opinion being expressed, draws me into thinking about it etc. There are some features of this text which are nice such as basing the layout on manuscript evidence and not ‘correcting’ spellings.

Thanks for taking the time to express your thoughts about this. I've placed my order.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 11:47 AM

Thanks for the information guys,

Tom

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 12:17 PM

Bruce Dunning:
what, in particular, you are enjoying about this edition compared to let's say the NA28

James White made some comments on this a couple months back on his DL program, related to how CBGM is affecting textual criticism. I can't remember the details of his comments, but do remember him saying that there were good reasons to get this particular edition related to the TC.

I bet someone here can delineate those reasons, but I'm getting to old to remember that kind of detail.

I did buy the hardback edition as a result of his comments.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 12:53 PM

Briefly:

1. Byzantine "text form".

2. Paragraphing, or how the texts were notionally separated into "blocks".

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Cromwell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 2:39 PM

Early paragraphing makes THGNT very interesting.

However, the text is not Byzantine.  It is in the tradition of reasoned eclecticism/ critical text.  One distinctive feature is that every variant must be supported by two manuscripts with at least one an early one.  This means there are no conjectural emendations.  It is very different to CGBM.

These two features make it interesting in sermon preparation.  I keenly await the textual commentary which I believe should be out soon and I would love to see in Logos too when it appears.

I'm really pleased Logos are producing THGNT.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 4:37 PM

Cromwell:

Early paragraphing makes THGNT very interesting.

However, the text is not Byzantine. 

Right. That's more to do with mention two levels above of CBGM.

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