Re: Copying Hebrew Words without accent marks

How can I copy Hebrew words without the accent marks. I need help
with this for my research work.
Paul
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I would also love to know how to copy Hebrew without accents. I edit Hebrew articles and frequently the publisher does not want the accents. Also, can one copy the consonantal text without the vowels? This would also be invaluable.
Mary
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To copy without the accents, copy from a version of the Hebrew Bible that doesn't have the accents in it. BHS does have them, but Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible doesn't (however it does have the vowels). If you want to copy just the consonantal text without the vowels, you need to copy from non-pointed Hebrew text. The Parallel Aligned Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek Texts of Jewish Scripture by Prof. Emanuel Tov is unpointed, but when you copy from that and paste into Word, you'll also get the parallel text, so you'll have to delete the latter. Also, both of these resources are kind of pricey.
One alternative would be to create a Macro in Word that would strip out all the accents (and vowels if you want to get rid of those, too), since those are simply separate characters as far as Word is concerned. I don't know how technically adept you are at Word, but I could explain how to do that if you want to give it a try. It would be essentially doing a global replace, one by one, of each of the possible accent (and vowel) characters with nothing. You don't have to write the macro from scratch; you can record one such replace operation, and then copy and paste the key line in the macro over and over again and change the one character in each line so that you've got one line for each of the possible accent characters (and vowels). Could probably be accomplished in a 15 minutes or so, and then once you save your macro you've got it there for use whenever you need it.
A final (cop-out) solution would be to find a non-pointed version of the Hebrew Bible on the Internet and copy from there. This site has several versions of the Hebrew Bible, both pointed and unpointed: http://biblos.com. You can view them verse by verse in parallel if you navigate from the Hebrew tab on the home page, or click on one of the version names and get just that.
Two others version you can't get to from those links, but from other places on Biblos.com:
BHS with consonants and vowels but no "accents": http://bhcv.hebrewtanakh.com/
BHS with just consonants: http://bhco.hebrewtanakh.com/
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Mary Conway said:
I would also love to know how to copy Hebrew without accents. I edit Hebrew articles and frequently the publisher does not want the accents. Also, can one copy the consonantal text without the vowels? This would also be invaluable.
Mary
This has come up before and should be sent as a suggestion to Logos as well as added to uservoice. suggest@logos.com and logos.uservoice.com
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MJ. Smith said:Mary Conway said:
I would also love to know how to copy Hebrew without accents. I edit Hebrew articles and frequently the publisher does not want the accents. Also, can one copy the consonantal text without the vowels? This would also be invaluable.
Mary
This has come up before and should be sent as a suggestion to Logos as well as added to uservoice. suggest@logos.com and logos.uservoice.com
One good way they could accomplish this would be adding a couple of new directives to the Copy Bible Verses styles: %NoHebrewAccents (I'm vaguely aware there's a more correct technical term for those marks, but I'm too tired to look it up now) and %NoHebrewVowels, which would apply only to copying of Hebrew text.
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Does anyone know if the ability to copy and paste Hebrew without accents and/or vowels has been added within Logos?
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Paul, the Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text (AFAT) does not have the accent marks. Copy from that text.
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Thank you Tim for your reply.
Unless there's a convenient way to paste without the vowel markings, which I have been unable to find, it seems the situation has not changed since this string began over 5 years ago. Any ideas?
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Matthew Genung said:
Unless there's a convenient way to paste without the vowel markings, which I have been unable to find, it seems the situation has not changed since this string began over 5 years ago.
Actually it has - check out Tools / Text Converter, seems this is what you're looking for:
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You may not be able to copy the Hebrew words without accents, but you can use the Logos Hebrew keyboard and type them in.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Thank you NB.Mick! You rock! Seems like an effective work around.
It would be nice if there were user definable options to keep or remove accents and vowels when pasting into a different application, as is found in BibleWorks, since using Text Converter adds a few steps to what is, at least for me, a frequent operation. It seems that the Copy Bible Verses tool would be a logical place to provide this option.
Cheers!
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Glad to help! [:D]
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I completely agree that this would be a useful option. The text converter is indeed one more unnecessary step to what could and should be an easy copy/paste command. (Accordance also has this function).
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Scott McQuinn said:
I completely agree that this would be a useful option. The text converter is indeed one more unnecessary step to what could and should be an easy copy/paste command. (Accordance also has this function).
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Every Logos user has 10 votes for suggestions, with a maximum of three per suggestion.
10 Votes => Options for copying Hebrew without accents & without vowels includes Faithlife comment:
In Logos 6, you can use the Text Converter interactive: https://www.logos.com/product/45680/text-converter
Text Converter interactive needs bundle purchase OR subscription.
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I'm guessing a Word (or other) Macro is the best we can do for the present with Logos.
I'll be writing one now that I know how to do what I've wanted to do for some time.
The global replace worked for the first few I tried. Got Characters from "Insert Symbol" for SBL Hebrew under "Combining Diacritical Marks" ...
Looks liike Unicode 0591 – 05C7 have everything you've discussed. If you know of a Macro already developed, please let me know.
Rob Wilson, Teaching Elder, Church of the Messiah
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Matthew Genung said:
Does anyone know if the ability to copy and paste Hebrew without accents and/or vowels has been added within Logos?
Files forum => Unpointed Hebrew Masoretic Text Personal Book
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