how to exclude a passage list

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Robert Offringa | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jan 11 2019 7:01 AM

I have not, by any means, mastered the search capabilities of the L8 software.  Thanks in advance for your help.  

Let's say I have done my awesome morphological search and I have created a passage list with almost everything I was looking for.  The results look something like "In my heart"  Very nice.

But now I want to see the New Testament WITHOUT that lookup.  Why? because not every instance of the word "Heart?" is preceded by a preposition and a pronoun.  I want to know what I am missing.

I have tried every which way to use the ANDNOT command but I am getting false results.

I recently learned how to sub search a passage list.  Now I want to sub search everything that is NOT my passage list.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 7:54 AM

Hi Robert - and welcome to the forums

Sorry but I can't quite grasp what you are asking.

When you mention "passage list" I think you might be meaning "search" but I'm not sure

Are you able to post a screenshot (using the paperclip icon in the forum editor) showing what you have produced and explaining what different result you are trying to get?

Thanks, Graham 

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 8:01 AM

I think Robert is referring to this thread about searching for something, saving it as a passage list, and then searching within that list.

Now he wants to exclude everything in the passage list from the search results.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 8:23 AM

Robert Offringa:
Now I want to sub search everything that is NOT my passage list.

I'm puzzled as well, but I'll assume the "in my heart" passage list is OK. So search for "heart" and create a passage list. From that list, click on Merge, then select the "in my heart" passage list, and choose Difference. The resulting list is all passages NOT in "my passage list", but still containing the word "heart".

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 8:28 AM

Levi Durfey:

I think Robert is referring to this thread about searching for something, saving it as a passage list, and then searching within that list.

Now he wants to exclude everything in the passage list from the search results.

Thanks Levi

Robert - if that is what you are trying to do I would stay with searches and not Passage lists.

On the left is a search that sounds similar to what you are doing, on the right is one that searches for "heart" but doesn't include the ones found in the search on the left

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

Graham

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Robert Offringa | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 10:23 AM

Yes, thank you everyone.  You are correct in your assumptions of what I was saying, though I am really intrigued by the responder before you as well.  I'll have to try that.

So, yes, I started out with 

heart? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

it actually worked this time.  I composed the same line this morning and it gave me nothing but grief.  I did it in the NKJV.  While that shouldn't make a difference, at least this worked.

THEN: I created a passage list and searched only that passage list with this further exclusion:

heart? ANDNOT (@R BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

I created another passage list, which I then referenced in a third search with this exclusion, cutting out all the definite articles:

hearts? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ D???> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

I ended up with 11 verses with results like 2 Peter 2:14   "They have a heart trained in covetous practices"   (no definite article, no preposition, no pronoun)

I am grateful.  

now to try the other brother's MERGE Difference method.

bob

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Robert Offringa | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 10:43 AM

Awesome, yes, symmetrical difference.  Totally worked.  Thanks!

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 11 2019 2:36 PM

Robert Offringa:

So, yes, I started out with 

heart? ANDNOT (<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?)

it actually worked this time.  I composed the same line this morning and it gave me nothing but grief.  I did it in the NKJV.  While that shouldn't make a difference, at least this worked.

(<LogosMorphGr ~ P> BEFORE 1 WORDS <LogosMorphGr ~ R??????> BEFORE 1 WORDS heart?) works in a translation like ESV because of English word order (in Greek the pronoun may appear after "heart?").

So heart? ANDNOT (......) works quite well for your purposes.

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