Things I miss from Bibleworks #2: Notes and Text Dragging

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Ben | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019 8:31 AM

Bibleworks had a robust and automatic note-system. There was a note for every verse and every chapter, plus free-floating notes. These loaded automatically with each verse and verse change.

It was possible to select text from any other window and simply *drag* it into your notes, wherever you wanted that text to be: English, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, whatever. I've instinctively tried that several times in Logos 8 before realizing you can't do it. Has to be copy/paste, either with keyboard shortcuts (which often fail for me or require multiple attempts) or else using the commands from a dropdown menu. 

I would love to see the text-dragging in Logos.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 8:49 AM

Ben:
either with keyboard shortcuts (which often fail for me or require multiple attempts)

What do you mean? How do they fail you? I never have a keyboard shortcut to copy and paste fail to do the job...unless my keyboard is sticky.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 9:38 AM

I mean, I highlight the text, hit CMD+C, move to my note, hit CMD+V... and it hasn't copied the  highlighted text. Maybe it pastes the previous thing I'd copied. When you hit the shortcut, there's no way to tell that it's been successful until you try to copy. FWIW, I don't have this problem in other apps, and I've not been able to isolate any characteristics of the occasions when it fails in Logos 
By contrast, there's visual indicator of success while dragging text. 

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 9:57 AM

I just did this on my Mac and it worked as it's supposed to.  Highlighted a passage, CMD+C, CMD+V into a note.  Everything pasted including citations.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 12:03 PM

Ben

I too have never had a problem (other than operator error) with Cmd C and Cmd V with this and for many versions of the software.

I have a little utility (CopyLess) which I find very useful, it shows the contents of the clipboard at present and will also let me paste things that have been on the clipboard recently.

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 12:08 PM

Irreproducability aside (which doesn't surprise me), I prefer being able to drag and drop text. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 22 2019 4:41 PM

Ben:
There was a note for every verse and every chapter,

Ouch! I hate using the verse-chapter divisions for anything except the equivalent of line numbers in legal documents ...I'm glad I converted by daughter-in-law off Bibleworks when her seminary subscription ran out.

It does concern me that the keyboard copy-and-paste is not working consistently. Unfortunately, I can't reproduce the problem.

Ben:
I prefer being able to drag and drop text. 

I can see why this would have appeal but I've not worked with an application that worked that way.

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