Logos. I give up.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2019 6:49 PM

Roy:
. They also have extensive video help showing the process. A little bit of googling will find them.

Some of us have an even more reliable and inexpensive method that is very reliable - call a grandson and pay for parts and dinner. Okay, it does take a well-trained grandson in the right profession but I will vouch for the reliability.  So would Microsoft. Wink

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David Medina | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2019 9:16 PM

Some good news. Rebuilding the Index did help quite a bit. AT least I can now use the software. Thanks.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 27 2019 11:47 PM

David Medina:

Some good news. Rebuilding the Index did help quite a bit. AT least I can now use the software. Thanks.

That is good news - but if you still have problems please post back with details.

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 5:08 AM

I have been considering reporting spikes in processor consumption by Logos in the first few minutes on OSX 10.14.3 and the most recent version of Logos.  

This is with no visible indicator of indexing or downloading of new resources. This is also on a MBP that is about two months old with an SSD, 16GB and i7 2.2 Ghz.

On Saturday when this occurred, the processor maxed out and the fans came on.  I rebooted and when I started Logos as the only thing, it returned to this state.  

I left it for about five minutes and then it settled down.  It ran then with no problems all day, even in the background with other fairly intensive apps running from time to time.

This morning it did it again, not to the same extent or intensity... but I am patient and after a few minutes it seems to settle down.

I am not sure what is causing this and I have seen it before.  Being a bit lazy because it seems to sort itself out, I have not bothered to report it here.  I'll do some screen shots and did around a bit more the next time it happens.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 5:45 AM

Hi Donovan

Sorry to hear about the issues you are having.

When it happens again I suggest you report it in a new thread

Graham

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 6:23 AM

David Medina:

Francis, I wish I could switch my HDD for an SSD in my iMac but unfortunately, Apple makes it expensive to do and I will probably replace all my computers by next year. 

There is a way to run off an SSD even without opening up your device. Depending on whether your iMac uses a mini DVI port or a Thunderbolt 3 (USB C) you can add an external drive connected to that port that's an SSD. I did this for years on an old Mac mini. It is not as fast as it would be if you bought the computer with the SSD internally, but it is faster than running the computer with a traditional spinning drive inside. You can use something like Super Duper (free version works fine) to copy your internal drive. Then you can use the OPTION key on startup to select the start up disk.

  • Hold down the Option key immediately after turning on or restarting your Mac.
  • Release the Option key when you see the Startup Manager window.
  • Select your startup disk, then click the arrow or press Return.

After testing if it works, then you can format the internal drive to use as a drive for storage.

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Pastor Michael Huffman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 11:16 AM

David Medina:

Thanks. I do agree, that is why I have all those features off. I always open to the possibility that there may be something corrupt with the computer itself. 

Let me give you an example. Whenever I think I may want to use Logos 8 I have to launch the program and literally go to lunch to allow enough time for the app to load up and get to a point that can be usable. So I cannot use it as soon as the app start. Another issue is that is that it has to index frequently which I know that it affects the performance.

No other app in the Computer has issues like Logos, that is why I am not incline to consider the computer to be the issue. 

I am running Logos 8 on a iMac 27 inch late 2013 with a i5 3.2 ghz processor with 24 GB of memory. It has the HD that comes with it (no  SSD). That should be more than enough.

But I will try to reach out to support.

I have been with Logos since 1997 and it has been my experience that Logos DOES NOT perform well on an HD, no matter what other specs may seem powerful enough; you have to have it on a SSD. I have used many computers with Logos, and no matter the RAM, Processor speed, Video RAM or anything, unless I had a SSD, it was slow. 

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 2:37 PM

Experiences may vary for many reasons.  I have L8 on a Laptop HD.  The computer is several years old, but pretty fast.  Logos runs quite fast on it.  I had a 10 year old Desktop that like the Children of Israel's shoes would not wear out.  It was laggy.  I bought a SSD and now, L8 almost screams on that machine.  So both can work fine, but SSD's are seriously better. 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 28 2019 3:41 PM

GaoLu:

Experiences may vary for many reasons.  I have L8 on a Laptop HD.  The computer is several years old, but pretty fast.  Logos runs quite fast on it.  I had a 10 year old Desktop that like the Children of Israel's shoes would not wear out.  It was laggy.  I bought a SSD and now, L8 almost screams on that machine.  So both can work fine, but SSD's are seriously better. 

Definitely.

And 20 users can be perfectly happy, but one not, all due to how it's used. Even the choice of a specific linked resource can half the performance, etc Luckily, all the great advice is sprinkled here and there, to prevent too much use.


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Tony Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 29 2019 8:35 AM

It may also help if you pause indexing while you are using the program.  Indexing is very CPU intensive.

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