Creating/Using Collections

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 3 2019 2:27 PM

I hope this question doesn't sound too simpleton.....I basically use logos to study and have commentaries up to follow along. I will look up a word using strong's every so often. I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading. Don't the various guides do all of this and if I choose a few favorite commentaries that come up in my study layout, is there a reason to create collections? I am trying to learn about them but it seems logos has all the standard setups there already to search all of the related resources based on the text I have pulled up. That's it!! Hope that makes sense!!

Thank you!!!

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 4:48 PM

Collections are especially useful for searching when you want to narrow down your results.

https://wiki.logos.com/Collections

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 6:42 PM

Hi Bruce,

Thank you for the wiki link! I never think about looking there. I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition? For instance.....having the ultimate collection and sorting resources by the tradition under which they are sold. Any ideas on how to do that? Or if it is even possible? Thank you again.

Robert 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 6:55 PM

Robert S Stramski:
I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition?

I accomplish this by using "My Tags" for all of my resources - See screenshot below for samples.

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 7:03 PM

Okay....I will look at wiki and learn about tags. Haven't even investigated those yet. Thank you so much for being so kind and helping!!

Robert

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 7:20 PM

If you would like to see what tags I currently use here is a document that lists them - 6457.Copy - My Tagging System for Logos.docx

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 7:55 PM

Thank you so much for that! I have been reading about them! You have really been doing that a while! I have the collectors edition and will probably get the ultimate this week. It might take a lifetime to tag them all! But.....it would definitely keep one busy and out of trouble! Thank you again Bruce. You have been an amazing help to me.

Robert

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 7:59 PM

Robert S Stramski:
is there a reason to create collections

Beside the advantage in searching that Bruce mentioned I use collections in some other ways. In the Guides you can add a collection section (or multiple ones) and have the results of that collection searched and displayed in the guide. For example, I have organized my commentaries somewhat after the suggestion made by MVP Mark Barnes and have a special Passage Guide composed of nothing but collections of commentaries: advanced, intermediate, expository, homiletical, etc. I can run this guide on a passage and then home in on the types of commentaries I want to look at.

Another place I use collections in in the parallel resources tool. In setting up a collection you can choose to have it appear in that tool when the data type in the tool would be identical and the current resource is in the collection. So I have a smaller selection of Greek lexicons that displays along with the list of all my Greek lexicons Logos creates on its own and I can use that shorter list to find what I want more quickly (prioritizing helps do this, too, but I've limited my prioritized lexicons to five, so it only helps that much). I've chosen to have two of the above mentioned commentary collections show up as parallel resources to speed up locating commentaries of the types I use most often. I don't use all my collections this way, but I do this with some of them.

A third way I use collections is to organize my resources by subject so I can find the books on a given subject that I'm interested in. To some extent just using the search tools in Library can accomplish the same thing, but this depends on Faithlife's tagging which might not always be how I'd think about a subject. Bruce's use of tags allows him to do this.

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 3 2019 8:42 PM

Thank you for all of that! Just talking with Bruce and now you going a little further with collections and tagging helps so much. I got bruces tagging list and I am going to spend some time on that and absorb how you seperate collections and figure my own system out. Thank you again! I understand the whole concept of collections much better now with tagging as well. Wasn’t even going to explore tagging. That was made easy too. 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 4 2019 2:07 PM

Robert S Stramski:
Thank you so much for that!

Glad to help Robert.

Robert S Stramski:
It might take a lifetime to tag them all!

Yes, it has taken me a long time to tag every resource but I have found the process has been as rewarding as the end result. By taking time to pause and look at each resource I become a bit more familiar with my library. I often open resources and take time to scan the table of contents etc. Also, if the resource interests me I tag it with the type of book I want to read. I'm sure you will not regret doing it.

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 4 2019 5:57 PM

Recently purchased the Ultimate Collection and I am a little overwhelmed. I think your tagging method will help me to slow down and look at each title (here and there) and familiarize myself with them - at least enough to arrange them in some collection forms.

Robert

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 4 2019 6:17 PM

Robert S Stramski:
Recently purchased the Ultimate Collection and I am a little overwhelmed.

You are blessed!

Robert S Stramski:
I think your tagging method will help me to slow down and look at each title (here and there) and familiarize myself with them

Enjoy the journey!

And be sure to return to the forums often.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 4 2019 10:47 PM

Robert S Stramski:
I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading.

Personally have modified commentary titles => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 that shows in Passage Guide

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 6:53 AM

I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.

Robert

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:01 AM

Robert S Stramski:

I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.

Hi Robert,

I prefer to categorise my commentaries by the type of commentary it is (technical, devotional, historical, etc.). I've created collection rules for 12 such collections. You can copy my rules here. That allows me to create a custom passage guide like this:

I then use prioritisation to ensure that the commentaries I find most helpful end up at the top of the lists. Prioritisation is very personal, but by default, Logos prioritises an entire series at a time, so it would take you too long to at least prioritise a dozen of so commentary series that you particularly find useful. 

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:05 AM

Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?

Robert

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:06 AM

And what is an "intermediate" commentary"? I know I'm showing my ignorance but I might as well get it all out front. Ha!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:23 AM

Robert S Stramski:

Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?

Robert

If you are referring to 'Prioritising' series in the library, Robert, then this line from the Logos Help document might help.

'Note: when dragging a resource that is part of a series, the whole series will be added. To prioritize a single resource from a series, use the right-click method above instead.'

Logos Help. (2018). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.

 

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Robert S Stramski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:27 AM

Okay....and with tagging (I know it doesn't prioritize, etc....) only the single book you tag will be "pulled in or used". Is that right? Tagging is book specific?

Robert

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 5 2019 7:32 AM

Robert S Stramski:

Okay....and with tagging (I know it doesn't prioritize, etc....) only the single book you tag will be "pulled in or used". Is that right? Tagging is book specific?

Robert

I am pretty sure you are right.

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