Multiple Languages and Non-Latin Characters for Personal Books

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Chris Belmonte | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Feb 7 2019 10:25 AM

Is there any way to make sure that Hebrew, Greek, and any other non-Latin script appears in the correct order? This is important to me. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 7 2019 12:08 PM

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Chris Belmonte:

Is there any way to make sure that Hebrew, Greek, and any other non-Latin script appears in the correct order? This is important to me. 

It would be best for this to be in the appropriate forum. Are you using L7 or L8? A forum moderator can move the thread for you. 

I do not work much in original languages, but I would assume that Greek would not be a problem, but that Hebrew would (since it reads right to left). Have you had problems with both? 

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Chris Belmonte | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 8 2019 6:48 AM

L8. Thanks for the help my friend.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 8 2019 11:08 PM

Chris Belmonte:

Is there any way to make sure that Hebrew, Greek, and any other non-Latin script appears in the correct order? This is important to me. 

Generally if it appears correctly in the .docx file, it should appear correctly in a personal book. Occasionally, when the Word document has been edited multiple times you can get into language tag problems. Have you been having problems?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 10 2019 8:40 PM

Chris Belmonte:
Is there any way to make sure that Hebrew, Greek, and any other non-Latin script appears in the correct order?

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What language is specified in docx ?

Seem to remember English language for Hebrew words has opportunity for Hebrew letters to flip direction during Personal Book compilation.

Faithlife uses Unicode characters for Hebrew, Greek, ... SBL Bib Lit font includes English, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek unicode characters.

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Chris Belmonte | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 11 2019 3:51 AM

You just restated the warning. Obviously it's going to be English as books are written in English.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 11 2019 4:07 AM

Chris Belmonte:

You just restated the warning. Obviously it's going to be English as books are written in English.

That's wrong. Usually MS Word detects the languages Greek and Hebrew for words in such script, but you can make sure manually by setting the language of individual words. Word (at least on Windows) is smart enough to support non-Latin characters and Right-To-Left languages such as Hebrew. When marked in this way, the PB compiler will pick up on the language and will display correctly in Logos.

You will need to make sure, though, that you use Unicode fonts in your Word document, not some old-fashioned solution that just show something looking like a non-Latin character (such as displaying an alpha when technically there is an a). English text in PBs should be Times New Roman, as this is interpreted as "Standard" and Logos will use the font you configured in the application settings to display it. For Greek and Hebrew you may want to use any of the Unicode fonts offered for those languages, where SBL BibLit is a font that supports both languages.  

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Chris Belmonte | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 11 2019 4:09 AM

Alright how do i make sure documents are entirely unicode? Setting individual words isn't feasible.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 11 2019 4:47 AM

Chris Belmonte:

Alright how do i make sure documents are entirely unicode? 

Using the fonts available in Logos.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 11 2019 6:42 AM

Chris Belmonte:
Alright how do i make sure documents are entirely unicode?

Help Center has Hebrew and Greek Input Options article with link to Windows article => Logos Original Language Keyboard while macOS has System Preferences for Keyboard that includes Greek & Hebrew for Unicode input (along with many more selectable keyboards).

Word(s) copied from Logos application and pasted into docx editor will be unicode. 

LibreOffice is free (Writer can save document as docx), which has Insert => Special Character (with navigation to Unicode Subset of desired characters)

LibreOffice has Complex Text Layout settings, which is useful for documents having English, Greek, Hebrew & Aramaic words.

SBL BibLit font is a superset of SBL Greek & Hebrew so this font can be used in Logos for Greek & Hebrew text display. SBL fonts are made available without cost to individual scholars for non-profit use => https://www.sbl-site.org/educational/biblicalfonts.aspx

Chris Belmonte:
Setting individual words isn't feasible.

Years ago a cousin handed me a paper with Greek letters on it. What my cousin had done was typed in words using an English font followed by changing to Symbol font, which caused the "Basic Latin" Subset to appear as Greek. After looking at paper for a bit, recognized font change (cousin had hoped changing font would have also translated words).

Using Symbol font for "Greek" words in an English Personal Book will cause those words to appear in English ("Basic Latin") subset of Unicode characters in the Logos application.

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