How to search ONLY article titles in my dictionaries collection?

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jun 3 2010 10:44 AM

I'm trying to find the correct way to search only the titles of a dictionary collection I've created... when restricting search to a field, it only shows me Footnotes, Author and "Surface Text" (not title as per search results).

Is this possible? Am I the only one that sees this as a huge gap?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:16 PM

No, it's been a subject of quite vigorous debate. This post has the official Logos word on the question, though if you have time to read the whole thread, that could be helpful. When Logos has completed the work they want to do, I'm sure searching will be even better than ever. In the meantime I believe they should have allowed L3-style topic searching so at least we have something. Unfortunately, Logos don't agree.

You can use the field "title" in your search for some dictionaries (i.e. title:jesus). In theological journals the field is "heading". But the fact that title is missing from the drop-down suggests that none of the resources in your collection support that field. The dictionaries known to support the title field include:

  • The Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land
  • Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible
  • Harper's Bible Dictionary
  • Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary
  • New International Bible Dictionary
  • Tyndale Bible Dictionary
  • Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible
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J.R. Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:30 PM

I searched my library and noticed that the "heading:" search is also supported in several Bibles including the CEV, ESV, GNT (4th ed), HCSB, LEX, KJV, NET, NIV, etc...

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J.R. Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:32 PM

It also appears that the"title:" search is supported in many of the image based resources such as "(The Bible and Its Story".  I have many hits in these resources.

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Anthony U | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:41 PM

You can also capitalize the first letter of the word you are looking for and click "match case" in the search drop down box.  It's not a great solution, but it will yield better results than just typing the word without the capital.  Good luck!

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:42 PM

I feel like I've just had all the air sucked out of the room. . . makes having more then one dictionary pretty much useless.

I'm not interested in "topic" searches. I just want to look for a word form in dictionary entries. . . how utterly sad. 

Thankful at this point that I didn't put all my eggs in the logos basket!

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Jannie van Niekerk | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 12:50 PM

Are you looking for article titles(headings such as "Preface"), or dictionary headwords("Adam", "Tabernacle")?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 1:14 PM

Mike S.:
I just want to look for a word form in dictionary entries

Are we talking lexicons here, or Bible dictionaries?

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 1:33 PM

Jannie van Niekerk:

Are you looking for article titles(headings such as "Preface"), or dictionary headwords("Adam", "Tabernacle")?

Not sure I understand what translates to a "dictionary headword", so I'll give you an example of what I'm looking for:

In a collection of dictionaries (specifically do NOT want most of what's in my library, about 25 resources in all), I'm looking for a dictionary entry/article of the form "gentle*" . . . So I'll get articles that contain Gentle and Gentleness in their title, but possibly never in the article's text. For example, I would only see the GENTLENESS article/entry on page 405, and not the other 23 results in 18 articles.... I only want the single "article" (or at least what I think you're calling an article). 

The interesting thing to me is that if I instead go to my bible, look up the word gentleness, the right click and do a lookup, it will give me what I need for a single dictionary... but not for the collection of my choice. 

I just want to be able to do a "Lookup" on a collection, for a word that may not occur in a bible text (think theological terms). 

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 1:34 PM

Bible Dictionaries

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 1:54 PM

You can lookup a word in your dictionaries by typing look up gentleness in the command bar of Logos. It will open the dictionary that has the highest priority and has an entry on gentleness. You can't restrict to a particular collection though.

Once you have that entry, you can click the parallel resource sets icon, and you'll see a list of all the other dictionaries that also have that entry.

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 2:04 PM

Whew! The air appears to have re-entered my room! 

Thank you very much Mark. I very much appreciate your answer (as well as your videos).

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Jannie van Niekerk | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 2:24 PM

Also, if you right click on any word, and select Power Lookup, like so:

You get a nice list of Dictionary entries in the Power Lookup tool:

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 8:18 PM

Mike S.:
Whew! The air appears to have re-entered my room!

A bit more air. Customise Bible Word Study guide as follows:

For the Definition choose a collection of your bible dictionaries.

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Jonathan Burke | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 8:34 PM

This is brilliant, thanks very much Mark and Dave.

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 10:38 PM

Thanks Dave,

I've been playing with a custom word study guide, but it doesn't seem to like manual entry of some words. For example, it would let me enter and search on "gentle" but not "gentleness", but if I go to gal 5.22 and do a word study using this custom guide from there on that word, it works just fine. 

Thanks again for your help! 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 11:03 PM

Mike S.:
For example, it would let me enter and search on "gentle" but not "gentleness", but if I go to gal 5.22 and do a word study using this custom guide from there on that word, it works just fine. 

I think you discovered a bug, which could just be an aversion to certain "fruit"! But it is a bible word guide and should accept all bible words and bible dictionary headwords (like 'trinity').

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 3 2010 11:41 PM

Dave Hooton:
I think you discovered a bug,

I am suspicious that BWS thinks that gentleness is a form of gentle and is going back to the base form.

 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2010 12:50 AM

MJ. Smith:
I am suspicious that BWS thinks that gentleness is a form of gentle and is going back to the base form.

Yes, that is what the BWS is doing. It does the same for "run" and "running" (though not for "ran").

The resultant search depends on your "Use all Word Forms" setting though.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 4 2010 3:13 AM

MJ. Smith:
I am suspicious that BWS thinks that gentleness is a form of gentle and is going back to the base form.

See http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_BWS_does_not_accept_all_bible_words

Mark Barnes:
The resultant search depends on your "Use all Word Forms" setting though.

This is the other side of what BWS does with a more complete template than my word Definition.

Its Textual search results are based on matching "all Word Forms". But when you run its Text query the results will depend on your setting if you re-use a Search tab ie. "Send Searches here".  If you don't do that you may get the expected results.  So that's another bug for BWS!

EDIT: the results depend on settings in the last Search! This is confusing because nobody really knows the last search they did and why should it be relevant? See http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_BWS_does_not_correctly_re-generate_its_Textual_searches

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