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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 23 2019 10:59 AM

Two Bibles ESV and NASB 95

Visual Filter Icon - ESV 

Notes and Highlights 

ESV Bible is listed

NASB 95 is listed

Visual Filter Icon - NASB 95

Notes and Highlights

ESV Bible not listed (no box) 

NASB 95 is listed

Question - why is the ESV not listed in the NASB 95 Visual Filter Drop Down?

I am attempting to see the corresponding highlights of the NASB in the ESV.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 11:48 AM

Are these visual filters that you have created? If so, we need to see the visual filter in order to see what you have applied the filter to:

 OR

are you referring to this and asking why there is not symmetry in the references - we'd need to see notes with attachment points to know

If they are not user created, you need to provide more information or a screen shot so that we can see what you are talking about ...

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 1:28 PM

I am not talking about that type of visual filter.  Neither the ESV or the NASB 95 are filters created by the Visual Filter Document.  They are notebooks created by highlighting in the two bibles.  But for some reason the note book created by highlighting in the NASB 95 does not appear in the ESV drop down.  

Again, the notebooks were created by highlighting in those Bibles. 

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 1:30 PM

Also, my drop down is titled; Notes and HIghlights IT IS NOT LISTED LIKE YOUR SCREEN SHOT; Notes and HIghlights (Corresponding) .

The Corresponding is not present.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 1:33 PM

Joe Mayden:

Also, my drop down is titled; Notes and HIghlights IT IS NOT LISTED LIKE YOUR SCREEN SHOT; Notes and HIghlights (Corresponding) .

The Corresponding is not present.

Can you post a screen shot?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 2:18 PM

Joe Mayden:

Also, my drop down is titled; Notes and HIghlights IT IS NOT LISTED LIKE YOUR SCREEN SHOT; Notes and HIghlights (Corresponding) .

The Corresponding is not present.

The Corresponding Visual Filter was introduced in 8.3 beta 1. I assume you are running the stable 8.2 release 

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 3:02 PM

I understand that Corresponding Visual Filter's is 8.3.  That doesn't answer the question as to why my visual filter drop down on the ESV shows both ESV and NASB 95 but my visual filter drop down on NASB 95 only shows NASB 95 and not ESV.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 4:34 PM

Joe Mayden:
That doesn't answer the question as to why my visual filter drop down on the ESV shows both ESV and NASB 95 but my visual filter drop down on NASB 95 only shows NASB 95 and not ESV.
Okay, I now understand that you are speaking of displaying the note files icons/highlighting.  What you are telling me is that:

  • When you open your ESV, your notebook options include ESV and NASB 95. This says that there are notes in both notebooks that apply to the ESV. Your anchors should show this.
  • When you open your NASB 95, your notebook options include only the NASB 95. This says that only the notebook NASB 95 has notes that apply to the NASB 95.

Put another way, it you ran through all the anchors in the notebooks.

  • ESV has notes only for the ESV
  • NASB 95 has notes for both the ESV and the NASB 94.

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 9:05 PM

Thanks for the responses - I have and illustration - Corresponding Highlights 

See attached.

Using Lexham English and NASB 95 - the NASB 95 appears in both drop downs but as can be seen in the attached the Corresponding Highlights do not work.  

Page 78 of Logos Bible Software Training Manual, Volume 2 indicates it should.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 11:55 PM

Sorry but I'm still not following.

In your screenshot is the NASB on the right?

If so, what you are showing is a number of highlights that have been applied to that text specifically and they won't appear in other texts until the corresponding notes and highlights visual filter is available (8.3).

At which point the associated notebook should appear in the "Notes and Highlights (Corresponding)" section

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 23 2019 11:58 PM

First, the Logos Bible Software Training Manual applies to Logos 7. As you posted in Logos 8, I assume that you are using Logos 8. If you are running 8.2 there is no option for corresponding highlights - as you noted in your response to my first post. If you are running 8.3 beta then there is an option for corresponding highlights as I showed in my first post. I believe you are trying to use a feature that is not in your version of Logos ... unless I have misunderstood yet again.

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 4:08 AM
M J and Graham, thanks for interacting with me. I am using Logos 8.2. If I understand your responses I am presenting two questions. 1. Did corresponding highlights exist in Logos 7? 2. Why does my ESV list both ESV and NASB 95 in the drop down for Notes and Highlights and my NASB list only NASB 95. Again, thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 5:06 AM

1) Corresponding highlights did exist in Logos 7. It was not supported in the new Notes Tool when Logos 8 shipped but will be supported in 8.3.

2) Your NASB 95 notebook must contain either a note or highlight that is tied to the ESV. 

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 6:40 AM

Thanks Graham for helping me.  I am attempting to find out what I did that enabled the ESV to have both note files but NASB doesn't.  

I might never know!

Have a blessed day@

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 6:56 AM

Joe Mayden:
I am attempting to find out what I did that enabled the ESV to have both note files but NASB doesn't.

If you filter the Notes Tool to just show the ESV resource - you should be shown at least two notebooks in the filter area (I just have one).

If you click the NASB notebook you should see which notes tied to the ESV are in the NASB resource

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 11:03 AM

Thanks Graham, it worked see attached.

I have no scheme for highlighting and notebooks.  I am getting the concepts slowly.  If you have any suggestions I would value them. 

Thanks again for staying with me. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 11:51 AM

Joe Mayden:
Thanks Graham, it worked see attached.

Excellent

Joe Mayden:
I have no scheme for highlighting and notebooks

What would you like to achieve?

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Joe Mayden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 24 2019 12:04 PM

Graham, with all the resources we have at our disposal I want to be efficient.  What efficiency means to me is:

1.  on any subject or biblical reference have the ability to glean through the resources identifying the information, thoughts, perspectives, historical understanding and doctrinal issues.  As they are identified put that information in retrievable format, i.e., notes, clippings, tagging, etc.

2.  be able retrieve such information quickly to support how I have grown in my understanding of the Bible, theology, and application of that to me personally, then to those God has called me to minister/shepherd and then to others who may have need, i.e. being a resource person.

3.  recording my thoughts in a logical and retrievable scheme so that I benefit from previous study investment.  (I am repeating myself but I waste a great deal of time repeating my research.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 25 2019 11:35 PM

Joe Mayden:
1.  on any subject or biblical reference have the ability to glean through the resources identifying the information, thoughts, perspectives, historical understanding and doctrinal issues.  As they are identified put that information in retrievable format, i.e., notes, clippings, tagging, etc.

Notes or Clippings are the default mechanism for doing this

With Notes you have the option to highlight the resource / add comments associated with the resource whereas with Clippings you just "clip" the text

With Clippings, I would suggest a Clippings Document for each focus area

With Notes you can either associate them with Notebooks or Tag them. Each of them would help you in categorising information of interest.

One question, though, to consider is overlap - a note can only be assigned to a single notebook whereas it can have multiple tags associated with it

One other option to consider is Favorites - where you could set up a Favorites folder per area of interest and then drag articles, guides, searches to it.

Joe Mayden:
2.  be able retrieve such information quickly to support how I have grown in my understanding of the Bible, theology, and application of that

Any of the above approaches should enable you to retrieve information quicky

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