Bug in visual filter in CUVNP

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 25 2019 3:05 AM

It involves on macOS Mojave, CUVNP, LDGNT dataset.

As you can see in HDNT on top right panel, it shows the "sentence" boundary as Eph 1:3a, 3b-6, 7-...

Creating a visual filter on top left panel.

In lower left ESV, the question mark reflects this sentence boundary correctly. While in lower right CUVNP, there are a ton of wrong visual marker.

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Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 25 2019 11:23 AM

This is to be expected. The LDGNT tagging is on SBLGNT. Any results in a Chinese or English NT will be determined by the reverse interlinear alignment. You can show this by just searching for <LDGNT = Sentence>:

As you can see, there are many more inserted terms in Chinese, compared to English. The inserted terms (that have no Greek alignment) break up the LDGNT search hits. You are requesting a visual filter to put an icon at the end of each of these search hits, which results in the display you're seeing.

There is currently no way in Logos to only put one VF icon into a reverse interlinear for each unique annotation on the underlying text. 

A lot of similar problems can be observed when performing searches on SBLGNT- or LHB-aligned data in a reverse interlinear, particularly when using proximity or word order. 

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 25 2019 6:04 PM

Ok, pity to hear that.

But all is not lost. Because while the visual aid cannot be done using visual filter, it can be done using the discourse dataset on any target Bibles that has reverse inter linear. (When those discourse markup shown effectively one has the visual aid to see this boundary.)

I just regret that I wasn't aware of the existence of this feature introduced in 2016. As explained in another post, the discourse analysis markups (eg HDNT, LDGNT, vice vera for OT, etc) are the very reason I bought into Logos. So I wish this was the headline feature they were promoting when this came out. Honestly I saw the discourse Greek feature set in the diff view of what I'd own if I bought a package but have no idea that translates into such a cool feature.

Hand I knew that I'd bought for this dataset without a blink of an eye (I still need to blink to choose which packages though.)

Anyway, I still give thanks to this amazing feature. I just wished I'd have been using it for these 3 years it has been sitting there.

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Yes, I should have mentioned that the intended way to visualise this data is to turn on the "Discourse features (Greek)" and "Discourse features (Hebrew)" visual filters in any reverse interlinear Bible (if you own the data set). Glad you found it.

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