Printing in Logos 4 - Workaround

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Patrick N. Nolen | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jun 5 2010 6:15 AM

I found a workaround for printing in Logos 4. If you open a new handout and select add a blank item you can then copy and paste from any text in Logos then print the handout. Hope this helps.

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Robert C. Beckman Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 6:57 AM

Like many I appreciate the insight, but the fact of the matter is that I did not buy a new computer specifically to run this software, invest in the upgrade and then continue adding new resources--to apply workarounds. People need to very kindly state that...the emperor is not wearing any clothes...this was a completely blown call on Logos part and it needs to be fixed quickly. We are three iterations into Logos 4, the beta folks are telling us that new stuff is coming down the pike but most of us absolutely need to print. No workarounds, no bailing twine and wire solutions, no "well it kinda works" solutions. The program needs to print, should have been able to print from the beginning and it's time to get it right.

Still love and use the program every day, but it's hard to explain to my wife that this brand new spanking program update lacked something so basic for such a steep price

Bob

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 6 2010 7:31 PM

Just as an experiment, I copied 69 pages of a Logos book and dropped it into Microsoft Word, ready to print.  Took about 10 seconds.  I really don't consider that a "work-a-round."

I study in Logos everyday, and I just don't need to print very much.  If I do, I drop it into Word.  I do keep my study notes outside of Logos, and that may be the reason I do not really need a print function in Logos..

My point is that I don't think Logos dropped the ball by working on other things ahead of "print."  A "print" function would be low on my priority list.

I am not trying to make light of the much desired print function, and I am not one of the "Logos is always right boys."  But I think we always need a little perspective on things.  As much demand as there is for "print", I am sure it is coming.  I hope soon for those who need it.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 6 2010 8:54 PM

You can highlight, copy and paste the entire Bible.

Now search for every verse with a given word - highlight, copy and paste that. 

Highlight seems to be OFF on result pages  - WHY?

Please tell me how to get a search result into a hand out - thanks

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Exhorter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 12:39 PM

Okay reading the posts I am still a bit unclear.  Is it current;y possible to search on a phrase say in the New Testament, with a result of some 80 verses and then put those verse in a Word document or handout that can then be printed?  IF so, how exactly do you do it?  Also, can you grab these same verses and add them to a clipping?  Can the clipping be printed?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 12:50 PM

Michael, you can generate a Passage List from Bible Search results, as follows:

Then you can copy the verses from the passage list and paste them into Word or a handout to print. To do that, make sure you have your favorite Bible version entered in the Resources box at the top of the Passage List, select the entire PL by pressing Ctrl+A, right click anywhere in the highlighted area and choose Copy from the menu (or simply press Ctrl+C), and then paste into wherever.

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Robert C. Beckman Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 2:41 PM

Freeware programs have a print command. Now I'm not a programmer, but it seems like taking out something so essential requires work to remove it. I appreciate the fact that the logos interface is bleeding edge, but sometimes when you look over the edge you've got to pull back. Many people who, like me, are a little chagrined at this is that we upgraded before we wanted to because the introductory threshold was ending in January. I had to purchase a new computer to upgrade; I had invested heavily in the software and deemed it a crucial upgrade. To then turn around and not be able to print an Exegetical guide--something I'd been doing for 3 years; seemed like a step backward.

Bob

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J. Morris | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 3:22 PM

Robert,

You got it right, it is a basic function that should have been there (IMO).  I think there are a number of things that 'should have' been there when it came out that to me (and to many) are essential of ANY Bible Study program I use.  Namely PRINTING and TOPIC searching.  Who ever made the decisions to keep these out was missing the boat big-time.  My understanding is that they were not even planning on implementing those things.  (at least I know that is the case with basic printing).  

That being said, I understand that Logos has the fire under them to get some things right reaaalllll soon.  I'm sure they will come around.  I seriously can't wait until the day that I can honestly say to my pastor friends that Logos 4 is the best things since sliced bread.  I KNOW that day will come... I'd just expected it too soon.

J.M.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 3:37 PM

RobertCBeckmanJr:

Now I'm not a programmer, but it seems like taking out something so essential requires work to remove it.

Actually for L4, they started over again from scratch with a brand new underlying architecture, so each feature had to be ported over from L3 to the new architecture. It was not extra work to leave out features that they felt people weren't using as much, and get the product out the door as quickly as they could, with promises of following it up with free upgrades that included the missing features as they were implemented. This was always their strategy from the beginning of L4. I'm not sure they anticipated how many people would be upset by having to wait for printing and topic searching. But they are aware of it now and are working hard on getting these things done.

Here's the list of remaining "missing features" they are scheduled to finish by third quarter 2010: http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures

And here's a site where you can make your voice heard about which features you'd put the highest priority on: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4; you can also look there to see which features they've already got plans for and which they've already started working on.

Logos 3 still works and is still being fully supported during this transition period. They were encouraging people to upgrade to L4 early (before it was fully functional) because that way they get more feedback from users and can make it even better. Perhaps they should have been more up-front in the advertising for it, telling people that it was only in a state for guinea pigs and early adopters at that point. But it has been getting more and more feature rich with each interrim update. Some folks are keeping L3 to run alongside L4 in case there's something they need to do that L4 doesn't yet do.

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Fred T Daniel Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 8 2010 8:07 PM

Can't agree more, Bob!!! This is a major blunder - when Boeing built the 767 and 777, they brought in people from baggage, flight crews, gate agents and customers to make sure they missed nothing.  Developers are not necessarily pastors, teachers, professors; but I still do not understand how this was missed.

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Rev. John D. White, PhD | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 1:59 PM

Does this workaround apply to the exegetical guide also?  I can't seem to print it, as I could in Logos 3....what happened?

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 2:12 PM

Rev. John D. White, ThM:

Does this workaround apply to the exegetical guide also?  I can't seem to print it, as I could in Logos 3....what happened?

Since I use Beta, I am not sure it is also part of 4.0d version. But I can print/export from the Exegetical Guide:

Bohuslav

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 2:18 PM

Bohuslav, et -al

Printing is new in the 4.1 beta series.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 2:20 PM

Thomas Black:

Bohuslav, et -al

Printing is new in the 4.1 beta series.

OK, sorry, my memory is not that good Sad

Bohuslav

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Doug | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 2:23 PM

I just moved to beta last week.  The printing issue has been solved.  The print support is great now.

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Peggy McAulay | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 3:01 PM

I totally agree. I love Logos 4 and have lots invested in it.  I keep waiting for the print mode to added.  Please make this a priority for all of our sakes.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 3:04 PM

Printing will be in next Major release, but the beta is working great

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