Indexing, Is it Really Worth the Time?

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DHG | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jun 5 2010 6:39 PM

Over the past several months, my poor computer has indexed, merged-indexed, and re-indexed for more than 50 hours...and counting. The result? Well, other than wear on my hard drive, I now can search my entire library in less than 5 seconds. A similar search used to take me about 30 seconds in L3. Should I be impressed? Is this really the future of bible study software?

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 6:51 PM

You could search your entire library in 30 seconds in L3? Not me.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 7:00 PM

DHG:
I now can search my entire library in less than 5 seconds. A similar search used to take me about 30 seconds in L3.

The size of the library and the type of search make a big difference in the gains, but personally I think an 83% decrease in time is sufficient to be impressed. Statistically a single search tells me very little but for starters that's not bad.Smile

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DHG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 7:05 PM

Yeah, maybe hours of searching will eventually, statistically, begin to make up for the disparity in the hours upon hours of indexing.

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DHG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 7:12 PM

...and to be fair, most of my indexing was done while I was asleepSleep

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Kevin Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 8:30 PM

Fortunately I have never experienced the excessive indexing problem that some have been having.  Since my L4 purchase in Nov '09, the only time I have had to index has been the initial install, after a purchase and after an update.  The indexing time has been worth it to me.

I'm sure if I had experienced the daily indexing issues it would be driving me nuts too.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 9:09 PM

Todd Phillips:

You could search your entire library in 30 seconds in L3? Not me.

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When I ran searches under Version 3 I would literally take a coffee break.Coffee

 Since I index while sleeping or away from the computer, I hardly notice it. Sleep

EDIT: Hey Todd! That is strange how the forum software added my comment to your quote. Scary!

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 9:19 PM

DHG:
Over the past several months, my poor computer has indexed, merged-indexed, and re-indexed for more than 50 hours...and counting.

Laptops/Netbooks suffer most from indexing because the cooling system is barely satisfactory. The thing to do is ignore the invitation to manually index (Merge) in Basic Search's "New Resources" section or to re-index because you think it will be more efficient. My strategy with multiple computers is to regard my desktop system as a master for downloading and indexing and to use Method 1 or 2 at Quick Installation onto multiple computers for the laptop. The desktop tells me what has been downloaded (Auto Download = NO on my systems) and I don't mind the laptop indexing a few MB.

The situation will change with 4.0d (currently in beta) as Merge has been re-introduced and my tests have been very encouraging. This true Merge takes minutes and not hours when compared to a rebuild (a "merge" in 4.0c performs a rebuild!).

 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 5 2010 9:47 PM

DHG:
Over the past several months, my poor computer has indexed, merged-indexed, and re-indexed for more than 50 hours...and counting. The result? Well, other than wear on my hard drive, I now can search my entire library in less than 5 seconds. A similar search used to take me about 30 seconds in L3. Should I be impressed? Is this really the future of bible study software?

You shouldn't forget that indexing on your own computer also makes the downloads significantly smaller (because in L3 the index is included in the download). For example in L3, the ante-nicene fathers requires a 51.6Mb download. In L4 it's 31.7Mb (a 39% saving).

It's also the case that the many updates we've been receiving to L4 have necessitated more indexing than will normally be the case. I'd expect to be indexing less in the future as those updates slow down (though 4.0d due in a month or two will require a full index).

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Jonathan Burke | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 6 2010 12:03 AM

My 13GB of resources indexes in just under 4 hours. The increase in search speed over Logos 3 is nothing short of incredible. The time this saves me is invaluable.

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DHG | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 6 2010 1:28 AM

Dave, you're right. I'm using a laptop, and that certainly slows things down.

Mark, good points; thanks. And I look forward to 4.0d

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