Logos 8.5 Beta 2 (8.5.0.0003)

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Apr 30 2019 3:57 PM

To immediately update to the current beta enter the Update Now command. Otherwise, the app will automatically update the next time it's scheduled to check for updates.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 4:29 PM

-- Renamed “Automatically Download Updates” to “Automatically Start Downloads”.

WHY? I've been able to differentiate between those two settings because "Updates" tells me it's program updates as opposed to new resources. But "Automatically Start Downloads" doesn't communicate that.

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Rosie Perera:

"Updates" tells me it's program updates as opposed to new resources.

That's not actually how that behaves, so it's probably a good thing we've renamed it. The tooltip on the "?" button may provide some clarification, or see the 8.5 notes here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/181030/1047066.aspx#1047066

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 5:24 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):

Rosie Perera:

"Updates" tells me it's program updates as opposed to new resources.

That's not actually how that behaves, so it's probably a good thing we've renamed it. The tooltip on the "?" button may provide some clarification, or see the 8.5 notes here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/181030/1047066.aspx#1047066

OK, thanks for the explanation. I've been mistaken all along. Not that the new names are going to clarify things for people, IMO. It's all still pretty mysterious under the hood, and the nice explanation given in the 8.5 notes will have to be dug up by people to fully understand this.

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Rosie Perera:
OK, thanks for the explanation. I've been mistaken all along. Not that the new names are going to clarify things for people, IMO. It's all still pretty mysterious under the hood, and the nice explanation given in the 8.5 notes will have to be dug up by people to fully understand this.

Does the explanation in the tooltip on the "?" icon next to the setting clarify things at all? Do you have any suggestions for improved wording?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 6:34 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Does the explanation in the tooltip on the "?" icon next to the setting clarify things at all? Do you have any suggestions for improved wording?

I don't have the beta (I'm on the stable channel, running 8.4), so I don't know what the new tooltip explanation is yet. It might be sufficient. Since I'm not beta testing, I'm willing to forfeit my right to give input on the wording. I probably shouldn't have even given feedback on the Release Notes.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 8:07 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Does the explanation in the tooltip on the "?" icon next to the setting clarify things at all? Do you have any suggestions for improved wording?

The new settings makes the handling of new resources (YES) part of the Auto Download regime. The  (NO) option works the same, but the explanation could be improved (as well as the behavior).

Yes, they "appear" in Library, but without a message/notification the user still won't know. Suggest:

No: New resources will be treated as Cloud Resources, and can be downloaded from Library at any time.

The "and new" is conditional. "Requires the application to be open" is unnecessary. Suggest:

Yes: Download application updates, datasets and updated resources. New resources will download only if Download New Resources is set to "Yes".

I think it would help if the Settings were reversed i.e. first decide on New resources, then decide whether to Auto download.

NOW, I received the 31.3 MB notification when Download New Resources was set to "Yes". Will they still be downloaded after changing to "No"? Will the notification change to reflect the new download size (it didn't change in this case, so there may be no New resources)?

Dave
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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 8:09 PM

Rosie Perera:
I probably shouldn't have even given feedback on the Release Notes.

I'm glad that you did, Rosie. I expected that updates were about the program, and not the resources.

Thanks for the explanation, Andrew, as I had been confused by why the wording changed.

The tooltip wouldn't have helped me, since I wouldn't have felt there was a need to even view it.

(Another stable user who doesn't beta test, but reads the beta release notes to get an idea of what's been fixed.)

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2019 11:41 PM

PetahChristian:
but reads the beta release notes

The release  notes are not linked ...

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Martin Folley:
The release  notes are not linked ..

Thanks, It should be fixed now.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 1 2019 7:39 AM

I'm still confused about downloads in 8.5, despite this thread and the note on the other one.

What if I want program and resource updates to download automatically but not to download new resources automatically?

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SineNomine:
What if I want program and resource updates to download automatically but not to download new resources automatically?

Set "Automatically start download" to Yes, and "Download new resources" to No.

Oddly enough, the new wording of the settings is almost identical to the wording in your question.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 1 2019 8:42 AM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):

SineNomine:
What if I want program and resource updates to download automatically but not to download new resources automatically?

Set "Automatically start download" to Yes, and "Download new resources" to No.

OK.

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):
Oddly enough, the new wording of the settings is almost identical to the wording in your question.

Similar. The "new" in the tooltip for "Automatically Start Downloads" makes it sound like setting ASD to Yes renders the "Download New Resources" setting irrelevant.

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SineNomine:
Similar. The "new" in the tooltip for "Automatically Start Downloads" makes it sound like setting ASD to Yes renders the "Download New Resources" setting irrelevant.

Thanks for the feedback.

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