Jesus tagging missing in 91 places

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, May 9 2019 8:28 AM

I tried a search on all the names of Jesus in the book of John and discovered there were many names that were not tagged.  I assume the Large and most comprehensive tag of the 2nd member of the Trinity is <Person Jesus> but I found the tagging missing in many places where the  <Person Christ> is named.  So I decided to run a search on the places where Jesus and Christ intersects and compare the difference between the search for the <Person Christ> and I found 91 places where Jesus is not tagged.

Could someone at Logos please fix this and if there are other that can confirm this error please post here.  I was searching in the NKJV.  

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 9 2019 12:02 PM

Bump

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 9 2019 12:04 PM

We're investigating. Thanks.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 9 2019 7:17 PM

I'm failing to understand your logic that assumes this is an error. For example, in the first case, Matthew 1:16, the text is saying that Jesus = Christ ... i.e. two independent terms refer to the same thing. Why would the two terms intersect when they occur in separate phrases? If you look at the Information panel for Christ you will see it does not include "Jesus". Using Matthew 1:17, you will see in the Information panel that both Jesus and Christ are shown ... here one term implies the other; the syntax is not distinguishing the terms.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 10 2019 10:08 PM

The question is why some instances tagged as <Person Christ> are also tagged as <Person Jesus> (i.e., <Person Christ> ANDEQUALS <Person Jesus>), while others are not (i.e., <Person Christ> NOT INTERSECTS <Person Jesus>). It's not easy to intuit a clear distinction in every case.

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 13 2019 4:34 AM

Person Jesus- should be inclusive of all terms referring to the Second Member of the Trinity- (including all references to the Messiah (the Christ).  The purpose is so I don’t have to remember all the various titles for Christ in the Bible.  The same with the person God and the person Holy Spirit.

Christ- a subcategory of Jesus and refers to all places concerning a coming Messiah- (excludes Lord Jesus Christ) but includes terms such as Messiah and the Anointed One and The Christ.    By the way John 20:31 is missed under this category we have (the Christ) simply tagged as the person Jesus.

Let’s take John 4:25, 26 for an example:

The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah uis coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, vHe will tell us all things.”

       26     Jesus said to her, w“I who speak to you am He.”

 

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Vs. 25-

Messiah- tagged as Christ and should also be tagged as Jesus

Christ- tagged as Christ and should also be tagged as Jesus

He- tagged as Christ and should also be tagged as Jesus

Second He- neither tagged as Jesus or Christ and should be tagged as both

Vs. 26-

Jesus- correctly tagged as Jesus

I- correctly tagged as Jesus

Speak- tagged as both Christ and Jesus but should be tagged only as Jesus

Acts 3:18 has Christ tagged correctly as Jesus and Christ

The bottom line is when I search for Jesus all the references that are tagged as Christ should also be tagged as Jesus.    

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 13 2019 5:00 AM

MJ. Smith:

I'm failing to understand your logic that assumes this is an error. For example, in the first case, Matthew 1:16, the text is saying that Jesus = Christ ... i.e. two independent terms refer to the same thing. Why would the two terms intersect when they occur in separate phrases? If you look at the Information panel for Christ you will see it does not include "Jesus". Using Matthew 1:17, you will see in the Information panel that both Jesus and Christ are shown ... here one term implies the other; the syntax is not distinguishing the terms.

I think you misunderstand what I am trying to accomplish.  I am looking for all places where Jesus is mentioned. if I did a search for the <person Jesus>  in Matthew 1:16 I would miss the term Christ in Matthew 1:16.  

In John 11:16  Thomas who is called the Twin is both tagged as Thomas.  Thomas is tagged as Thomas and Twin is tagged as Thomas. The purpose in searching the most common term is so I will not have to think about all the separate names of a Person.

I started out looking for all the names and titles of  Jesus in Gospel of John and found out that I missed many places where Christ is not tagged as Jesus.  I can understand the separate category of Christ but that should fall under the broader category of Jesus.  All the places where Christ is mentioned should be tagged as Jesus and Christ.  Then both searches will be inclusive.  

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 13 2019 5:09 AM

John Brumett:
I started out looking for all the names and titles of  Jesus in Gospel of John and found out that I missed many places where Christ is not tagged as Jesus.  I can understand the separate category of Christ but that should fall under the broader category of Jesus.  All the places where Christ is mentioned should be tagged as Jesus and Christ.  Then both searches will be inclusive.  

Absolutely!!!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 14 2019 5:24 PM

John Brumett:
All the places where Christ is mentioned should be tagged as Jesus and Christ


We'll have to agree to disagree. I would complain loudly if I was unable to find those cases where Christ is used as a title rather than a person.

John Brumett:
Thomas who is called the Twin

This is coded as I would expect as Twin is used as a "nickname" rather than a title.

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