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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, May 22 2019 5:06 PM

As some of you may know, the NASB is coming up with an update early next year. When Logos gets to it, will the new update replace the NASB95, or will I have to pay for the new updated version and thus have two separate versions of the same translation? 

Thanks, 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2019 5:24 PM

It depends upon how the publisher deals with it... but in all likelihood, it is a NEW translation, a NEW resource, which will require a NEW purchase. 

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Kiyah | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2019 5:41 PM

Joseph Luna:

As some of you may know, the NASB is coming up with an update early next year. When Logos gets to it, will the new update replace the NASB95, or will I have to pay for the new updated version and thus have two separate versions of the same translation? 

Thanks, 

Given the extent of the changes I'm guessing it will be a new resource.

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Whyndell Gizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2019 5:42 PM

That means I’ll have 3 NASB versions- not sure I’ll be a customer have been using HCSB lately and it has quickly become my primary version 

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2019 5:48 PM

Thanks JT, that's what I thought. 

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 22 2019 5:49 PM

Thanks, 

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 12:00 PM

OK, but if I purchase the 2020 update version when it comes out, will all my notes and highlights from my 95' update be included? 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 12:12 PM

Joseph Luna:

OK, but if I purchase the 2020 update version when it comes out, will all my notes and highlights from my 95' update be included? 

Again, no. It will be a new resource. 

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 2:25 PM

JT (alabama24):

Joseph Luna:

OK, but if I purchase the 2020 update version when it comes out, will all my notes and highlights from my 95' update be included? 

Again, no. It will be a new resource. 

But if your notes are anchored to references (rather than words) and the NASB20 has a Reverse Interlinear, you should be able to turn on NOTES & HIGHLIGHTS (CORRESPONDING)

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 2:49 PM

Being that the case, will I be able to transfer all my notes and highlights through my visual filter from the '95 version to NASB20 one without having major issues? 

If serious issues take place through the visual filter, like repeating the same notes twice, three or even four times into the new resource, I wonder if the techs will be willing to look into it and find a solution? 

Last time when I called, I was trying to transfer my notes from the NASB to the NKJV, but it was a mess, yet the techs didn't want to touch it because no one had complained about it before, and so they asked me to look in the forums for a solution but no one knew how to solve it.

    

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 2:54 PM

Hi David: I tried to transfer all my notes through the corresponding notes filter from the NASB into the NKJV about a month ago, but in many places it doubled, tripled and even quadrupled the same notes in the NKJV. 

When I called, I was told to look for a solution in the forums because it was the first time that anyone had complained about it (meaning, it wasn't that important since there were no requests from anyone else). 

I'm bring this issue up with plenty of time to see if anyone can look into this issue before the NASB20 comes up. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 6:00 PM

Joseph Luna:
Being that the case, will I be able to transfer all my notes and highlights through my visual filter from the '95 version to NASB20 one without having major issues? 

It is important here to be technical. Using a the "corresponding notes" visual filter does not "transfer" the notes/highlights from one resource to another. Rather it merely allows you to see them in the other. 

However, it should be pointed out that this is a moot point for some time. 

1) The resource has not been released

2) It will take a while for it to be released in Logos after it has been released

3) It will take an even longer time for a Reverse Interlinear to be created. 

In all likelihood, we are talking about 2-3 years away. 

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 6:52 PM

Funny that you said that because about a month ago I tried to see all my NASB notes in the NKJV once I checked off the corresponding notes. To my surprise, they appeared twice, three and even four times showing up in the same parallel verse. The same thing took place all over the bible. Sometimes just once, but for the most part I saw them being "duplicated" as rabbits. 

So, without going into the future, what should I do now with this issue knowing the problem is taking place as we speak? 

When I called the experts, the tech took a good look at what was going on, made a couple of calls and told me later they couldn't help me because no one had complained about it before. He then told me to go to the forum to see if anyone could help me out. 

Two gentlemen took my case on, I believe you being one of them, but there was no solution. 

So I abandoned my pursuit, but I know it will come back to haunt me once the new update takes place because I don't want to give up on my 26,000 plus notes that I have at the moment and start up all over again. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 23 2019 7:22 PM

I am not sure what the problem was, but it is important to be precise: 

  • It may be that you are seeing the same note multiple times.
  • It may be that you have multiple copies of the same note.

I understand that both of those appear to you as the same, but they are in fact quite different things. When I corresponded to you before you suggested that you "copied" the notes. If that is an accurate statement, then you have multiple copies of the same note. You should not do that again! The "corresponding notes" feature allows you to see the note attached to resource "A" in resource "B." It is not, however, copied to resource "B." 

Joseph Luna:
So I abandoned my pursuit

Did you call back again after corresponding in the forums? 

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 5:51 AM

No, I didn't call them back because they told me right up front that the problem I had encountered has not been brought up before. They told me to look for a solution in the forums. Besides that, they already have a record of my "complaint."

If I call them back I'm sure they will give me lip service and tell me that "they will look into it." 

Now. to clarify, the issue is that I'm seeing is that the same note multiplies in the NKJV, in the ESV or any major other translation that I choose to use the "corresponding notes" filter. 

If I take the time to save one of the multiplied notes in the NKJV (as an example), then delete it, all the extra notes will disappear, including the original from my NASB. After that, if I paste the saved content of my note in the NKJV (as if was a new note), it will be remain as one note, BUT if I try to re-create it again on my NASB, it will immediately multiply in the NKJV as before. 

This means that I cannot keep my original notes in the NASB if I take the time to remove the duplicate notes manually from the NKJV. 

Does that make sense?  

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 6:07 AM

It sounds like the problem may be an understanding of where notes are stored, and how they are created.

Joseph Luna:
This means that I cannot keep my original notes in the NASB if I take the time to remove the duplicate notes manually from the NKJV. 

It is not possible to create or store a note in any bible or resource. Notes reside in a notes database and are simply linked to a resource or resources. There are two ways to create notes in a Bible resource.

You can select a verse or passage in the bible and then create a note based on the selection. When you do that, the note indicator will only appear in that resource. However, if you go to another bible and select corresponding notes, the note indicator will appear as long as the selected verse or passage is present in that resource.

The other way is to link the note to a verse or passage reference. If you create the note that way, the note indicator will appear in any versified resource where that verse pr passage is present.

If you have created notes in multiple resources by linking them to a verse or passage reference, all those note indicators will appear in all versified resources. If you created multiple notes linked to a selected verse or passage, and have Corresponding Notes selected. all of those indicators will appear as well.

The important distinction is that a note is never "in" a resource, rather it is linked to a selected portion of a resource, or to a reference that may be included in multiple resources.

For Bible notes, I make it a practice to always create the note linked to a verse or passage. That way it does not matter what version of the bible I am working with.

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 6:30 AM

I think you misunderstood me. When I make a note on a particular verse in my NASB, I can edit it, or delete at will. If I highlight it and copy it, I can make a blank note in my NKJV and paste the previous content. 

OK, so if I transfer all my notes from the NASB to the NKJV through the "corresponding notes" filter, it will appear in the NKJV up to 4 times in some of the verses. After a careful look, the the "corresponding note filter" have multiplied the parallel notes all over the bible correspondingly. 

Please note verse 1 and verse 2 have been transferred twice in each instance. I found in other instances that the same exact note has been "duplicated" three or four times. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 7:36 AM

Please provide a screenshot each for the actual notes in both verses 1 & 2. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 7:45 AM
Joseph Luna:
If I highlight it and copy it, I can make a blank note in my NKJV and paste the previous content.
What do you mean by this? You should NOT be highlighting and copying anything! The "corresponding note" visual filter is intended to prevent you from having to do so.

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Joseph Luna | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 24 2019 7:45 AM

In the NKJV, the fading triangular (purple) note on the left is identical to the one next to it. I will provide another screenshot from the NASB. 

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