Armin:My main criticism of Logos is its usability. The search functionality has significantly improved but if I need to find something quickly, I still use Google to search the Internet. Then when I gathered more information, I go back to Logos. Google just seems to know what I am looking for by just typing in a few words.
Yes, I do the same
Armin: If I need to find something quickly, I still use Google to search the Internet. Then when I gathered more information, I go back to Logos. Google just seems to know what I am looking for by just typing in a few words.
Maybe some of that difference is in the budgets of the two companies mentioned?? [Or maybe in the number of and the pay of the developers involved??]] [[How many lines of code in Google and how many lines of code in Logos / Verbum??]] [[The power of the computers running those programs??]]
If you really want a fast Logos get Faithlife to produce a version that runs on a Quantum Computer. [[If you can afford one]]
David Ames: Armin: If I need to find something quickly, I still use Google to search the Internet. Then when I gathered more information, I go back to Logos. Google just seems to know what I am looking for by just typing in a few words. Maybe some of that difference is in the budgets of the two companies mentioned??
Maybe some of that difference is in the budgets of the two companies mentioned??
Perhaps Logos could have a "WEB" search button in the inline search and other search tools. In the settings you can choose your preferred engine (e.g. Bing, Google, Yahoo, etc). Perhaps a split pane that opens if the web button is chosen. One search, searching both Logos, and the internet -- if desired.
David Ames:Maybe some of that difference is in the budgets of the two companies mentioned??
The computation problem is fairly simple; FL has the expertise. The issue is how much user data is available? And how variable is it? Logos appears to be a limited-number-of-heavy-users, and a lot of light-users. That scenario is hard to build data associations that meet a user's expectation at each usage point.
A really fascinating parallel is the competition in auto-driving cars ... T-company's servers are constantly watching the human drivers, learning the patterns, and avoiding Ladar demands.
Scott David: Perhaps Logos could have a "WEB" search button in the inline search and other search tools. In the settings you can choose your preferred engine (e.g. Bing, Google, Yahoo, etc). Perhaps a split pane that opens if the web button is chosen. One search, searching both Logos, and the internet -- if desired.
I like that idea... maybe it could be one of the guides that could be added to the Topic, Passage & Sermon Starter Guides
That might work: Reformat the Logos query and submit it to 'preferred engine'. Would Logos have to pay 'preferred engine' a royalty?
WORDsearch is making an announcement on Monday. Maybe they just bought Logos and everything we own in WORDsearch will be transferred over to Logos and a new era will begin hahaha
David Ames: Scott David: Perhaps Logos could have a "WEB" search button in the inline search and other search tools. In the settings you can choose your preferred engine (e.g. Bing, Google, Yahoo, etc). Perhaps a split pane that opens if the web button is chosen. One search, searching both Logos, and the internet -- if desired. That might work: Reformat the Logos query and submit it to 'preferred engine'. Would Logos have to pay 'preferred engine' a royalty?
Usually, any kind of usage of Google does not cost (they want folks to use their engine). I know that there are endless plugins to use Google in powerful ways on a website (e.g. have clients search your business site, or even create on-demand access to knowledge, products, etc) -- this is always free. However, embedding it within software might be a different animal.
MWW: Scott David: Perhaps Logos could have a "WEB" search button in the inline search and other search tools. In the settings you can choose your preferred engine (e.g. Bing, Google, Yahoo, etc). Perhaps a split pane that opens if the web button is chosen. One search, searching both Logos, and the internet -- if desired. I like that idea... maybe it could be one of the guides that could be added to the Topic, Passage & Sermon Starter Guides
Oh, right. That's a simple and practical idea. Perhaps this conversation should be someplace else? Some area of the forum for recommendations?
Unfortunately this is true for ALL Bible software programs. I myself search also often first with Startpage.com and then I go to the Bible software program.
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DAL: WORDsearch is making an announcement on Monday. Maybe they just bought Logos and everything we own in WORDsearch will be transferred over to Logos and a new era will begin hahaha
Mark: Armin:My main criticism of Logos is its usability. The search functionality has significantly improved but if I need to find something quickly, I still use Google to search the Internet. Then when I gathered more information, I go back to Logos. Google just seems to know what I am looking for by just typing in a few words. Yes, I do the same
I do this as well, but not because there is anything wrong with the Logos search. I find the Logos search to be powerful, quick, and easy to use. Right-clicking on a word and doing a morph search from the popup menu is friendly and fast. The search tab is powerful and straightforward to use. The Bible Word Study tool is also useful. The "corresponding words" functionality is beneficial when studying a passage.
Cynthia in Florida:P.S. Al Het: GREAT POST!
Thanks, Cynthia. I appreciate hearing back that my comments made some sense. By the end of writing them, I wasn't sure if I was being clear at all.
Seems they just stole some of the ideas around Faithlife Connect ("perk"). Would have been better if Lifeway sold that thing to Logos and everything we own in WordSearch would be transferred to Logos - and everything available in the WS store to the Logos store - and a new era will begin .... maybe they could have left some brick and mortar stores open in this case.
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NB.Mick:Seems they just stole some of the ideas around Faithlife Connect ("perk").
To be fair, they're offering 10% off all purchases if you spend $100 a year as well as free books. That's much more generous that Logos is offering (Logos is 2%).
At the same time, it does suggest that people need to be incentivized to spend $100/year. That's a very low number - and I'd be worried about that if I was a WORDsearch customer.
Mark Barnes: At the same time, it does suggest that people need to be incentivized to spend $100/year. That's a very low number - and I'd be worried about that if I was a WORDsearch customer.
Yes, indeed Mark. I probably spend over $100/year on the +1 & +2's which come with the Logos, FL eBooks, and Verebum FBOTM offers. I'd say that even the most causal Logos book buyer would have to work very hard not to spend $100/year!
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Bob Pritchett: We’ve been building Logos Bible Software since 1991. It’s the heart of everything we do, and of accomplishing our mission: We use technology to equip the Church to grow in the light of the Bible. Logos is the premiere tool for people who are serious about Bible study. It’s heavily used by pastors, scholars, seminary students, and lay people. But people who are serious about Bible study -- and want to use a powerful, dedicated tool for study -- are a small percentage of most churches. We want to serve everyone in the church, and we know that many people ‘grow in the light of the Bible’ through classes, small groups, video, and free content on the web....
We’ve been building Logos Bible Software since 1991. It’s the heart of everything we do, and of accomplishing our mission:
We use technology to equip the Church to grow in the light of the Bible.
Logos is the premiere tool for people who are serious about Bible study. It’s heavily used by pastors, scholars, seminary students, and lay people.
But people who are serious about Bible study -- and want to use a powerful, dedicated tool for study -- are a small percentage of most churches. We want to serve everyone in the church, and we know that many people ‘grow in the light of the Bible’ through classes, small groups, video, and free content on the web....
Batman: Sadly there's not much that can be done to regain my desire (that i am aware of) to get back to the Bible Study I once loved. That will take God to move me back.
Sadly there's not much that can be done to regain my desire (that i am aware of) to get back to the Bible Study I once loved. That will take God to move me back.
I need Jesus every day. Praying that he renews your heart to love him.
“Taste and see that the Lord is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.” (Psalm 34:8, NIV)
“Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.” (1 Peter 2:2–3, NIV)
Andrew Biddinger: Batman: Sadly there's not much that can be done to regain my desire (that i am aware of) to get back to the Bible Study I once loved. That will take God to move me back. I need Jesus every day. Praying that he renews your heart to love him. “Taste and see that the Lord is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.” (Psalm 34:8, NIV) “Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.” (1 Peter 2:2–3, NIV)
Actually, God has already given you the knowledge to realize you can’t be in your current state. It’s your choice to go back to your Father just like it was the prodigal son’s choice to come to his senses.
You cannot expect God to be behind you begging you to come back or to convince you to come back. To expect a miracle or God to come and fetch you is to believe the devil’s lies.
Praying and hoping you repent and turn back to God!
DAL