August FBOTM - Biblical (+Systematic) Theology

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Aug 1 2019 12:36 AM

Can I just say that I'm so happy to see the 3 titles offered this month? I was just looking at Kingdom through Covenant online, and while this is an abridgement, I'll probably get all 3 titles. Thanks FL!

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David Couch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 12:48 AM

Amazingly generous from FL. I keep saying to people to pick up these volumes, and at this price, they can’t say no!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 1:27 AM

Try to include links next time.  It makes it easier on others.  I got all 3.  They’re cheaper than they were not long ago during the Systematic Theology sale they ran. 👍😁👌

DAL

Ps. https://www.logos.com/free-book-of-the-month

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Liam & Abi Maguire | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 1:46 AM

What an amazing deal! 

Hamilton's God’s Glory in Salvation through Judgment has been on my wishlist for over a year after hearing him at the Evangelical Minister Assembly in 2018. But I never, EVER thought I'd be able to get a copy for less than a cup of coffee!

Thank you FL and the publisher. 

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Leo Wee Fah | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 1:59 AM

Thanks to Faithlife and publisher... all three books were on my wishlist! Yes

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:03 AM

Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s. I'm a sucker for commentaries on offer at exceptional prices. I picked up the freebie but not sure about the others. I appreciate different viewpoints but equally I am very definitely on the Protestant side of the Christian faith. Has anyone benefited greatly from any of the +1s? I'm thinking particularly about the Genesis volume as if I'm being realistic I'm far more likely to preach from Genesis than the other 2 volumes on sale.

https://verbum.com/monthly-sale#free

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:34 AM

Paul Caneparo:

Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s. I'm a sucker for commentaries on offer at exceptional prices. I picked up the freebie but not sure about the others. I appreciate different viewpoints but equally I am very definitely on the Protestant side of the Christian faith. Has anyone benefited greatly from any of the +1s? I'm thinking particularly about the Genesis volume as if I'm being realistic I'm far more likely to preach from Genesis than the other 2 volumes on sale.

https://verbum.com/monthly-sale#free

I'll try to say this in a way that hopefully doesn't stir up controversy. (I've got a wicked headache and am not at my best at the moment.) From a wide range of--but not all--protestant theological perspectives, catholic biblical scholarship is rarely problematic and often very useful. Most employ standard tools of interpretation and criticism and start their work from the text in front of them, not any dogmatic presupposition. And, any protestant seminary worth its salt is going to have a subscription to CBQ at the very least.

I always check out Verbum's freebies and +1s each month. I sometimes get them, sometimes don't. Some of the commentaries have been quite good; some haven't been my cup of tea just because of the type of commentary they were. For this one, I'd suggest getting the freebie and checking it out. If you like it, then you can buy the other ones. You have 31 days to decide, so why not?

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 2:54 AM

Sean:

Paul Caneparo:

Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s. I'm a sucker for commentaries on offer at exceptional prices. I picked up the freebie but not sure about the others. I appreciate different viewpoints but equally I am very definitely on the Protestant side of the Christian faith. Has anyone benefited greatly from any of the +1s? I'm thinking particularly about the Genesis volume as if I'm being realistic I'm far more likely to preach from Genesis than the other 2 volumes on sale.

https://verbum.com/monthly-sale#free

I'll try to say this in a way that hopefully doesn't stir up controversy. (I've got a wicked headache and am not at my best at the moment.) From a wide range of--but not all--protestant theological perspectives, catholic biblical scholarship is rarely problematic and often very useful. Most employ standard tools of interpretation and criticism and start their work from the text in front of them, not any dogmatic presupposition. And, any protestant seminary worth its salt is going to have a subscription to CBQ at the very least.

I always check out Verbum's freebies and +1s each month. I sometimes get them, sometimes don't. Some of the commentaries have been quite good; some haven't been my cup of tea just because of the type of commentary they were. For this one, I'd suggest getting the freebie and checking it out. If you like it, then you can buy the other ones. You have 31 days to decide, so why not?

Thanks Sean. I did pick up the freebie. I guess if I'm honest I often only get a chance to refer to a book when preaching on a passage where the book may prove useful. Hence, why I was being lazy in asking if anyone had usefully used any of these commentaries. 

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Joseph Sollenberger | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 3:40 AM

Paul, I have the current Berit Olam series and find it useful because of the approach taken. You will find that the Google Books website will give a good sample of pages that will present the approach of the book of interest. Another place I will always check is the Best Commentaries website, often first because of the links to Google Books and WorldCat (Find at a Library). If the book of interest is at a library not far from me, I will go check the print version of the book. 

I will remind all that Berit Olam emphasizes the final text as we have it from the perspective of literature and the art of communication. It is not a typical historical-critical commentary—but then I have many of that type. I appreciate the Berit Olam series because of the less common tack it takes. You may also enjoy taking a different path during a study to discover a wonderful view you would have missed.

Shalom,

Joseph

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 4:45 AM

Joseph Sollenberger:

Paul, I have the current Berit Olam series and find it useful because of the approach taken. You will find that the Google Books website will give a good sample of pages that will present the approach of the book of interest. Another place I will always check is the Best Commentaries website, often first because of the links to Google Books and WorldCat (Find at a Library). If the book of interest is at a library not far from me, I will go check the print version of the book. 

I will remind all that Berit Olam emphasizes the final text as we have it from the perspective of literature and the art of communication. It is not a typical historical-critical commentary—but then I have many of that type. I appreciate the Berit Olam series because of the less common tack it takes. You may also enjoy taking a different path during a study to discover a wonderful view you would have missed.

Shalom,

Joseph

Thanks Joseph. I hadn't checked out Google Books preview. Best Commentaries site has left me undecided about the book's merits compared to what I already own. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 5:29 AM

Paul Caneparo:
Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s.

I've never found Berit Olam useful in ministry (nor indeed academia for that matter). This extract from the description of the 1 Samuel volume may help you to understand why:

While drawing on the resources of biblical “narratology,” Jobling deviates from mainstream methodology. He adopts a “critical narratology” informed by such cultural practices as feminism and psychoanalysis. He follows a structuralist tradition which finds meaning more in the text’s large-scale mythic patterns than in close reading of particular passages, and seeks methods specific to 1 Samuel rather than ones applicable to biblical narrative in general.

If that sound useful to you, go get it! But to me, it appears to be shorthand for saying that he is going to ignore grammatico-historical criticism and impose his own meaning on the text. (So much so, that it's not even a commentary, but a series of essays on loosely-related themes.)

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 6:31 AM

Mark Barnes:

Paul Caneparo:
Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s.

I've never found Berit Olam useful in ministry (nor indeed academia for that matter). This extract from the description of the 1 Samuel volume may help you to understand why:

While drawing on the resources of biblical “narratology,” Jobling deviates from mainstream methodology. He adopts a “critical narratology” informed by such cultural practices as feminism and psychoanalysis. He follows a structuralist tradition which finds meaning more in the text’s large-scale mythic patterns than in close reading of particular passages, and seeks methods specific to 1 Samuel rather than ones applicable to biblical narrative in general.

If that sound useful to you, go get it! But to me, it appears to be shorthand for saying that he is going to ignore grammatico-historical criticism and imposes his own meaning on the text. (So much so, that it's not even a commentary, but a series of essays on loosely-related themes.)

historical-grammatical

Thanks Mark. The reviews on the 3 volumes on sale led me to believe the 1 Samuel volume was probably not my cup of tea for the reasons you outline. Reviews on the Genesis volume tend to suggest that it's rather light where you may wish for more. The Psalms volume is only a dollar short of a volume in my wishlist that is on sale in the Best Commentaries sale, so I think I'll spend $9.99 on that instead. Really appreciate your feedback as I'm in Lay Minstry and can't afford to spend needlessly on volumes that won't add to my teaching ministry.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 7:25 AM

The name of the series alone is weird let alone the content! Bert O what?

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 8:03 AM

DAL:

The name of the series alone is weird let alone the content! Bert O what?

Not "Bert O", Berit Olam. That's biblical Hebrew you're mocking. It means "The Everlasting Covenant."

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 8:25 AM

SineNomine:

DAL:

The name of the series alone is weird let alone the content! Bert O what?

Not "Bert O", Berit Olam. That's biblical Hebrew you're mocking. It means "The Everlasting Covenant."

someone forgot to take his happy pill this morning!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 9:07 AM

Friedrich:

SineNomine:

DAL:

The name of the series alone is weird let alone the content! Bert O what?

Not "Bert O", Berit Olam. That's biblical Hebrew you're mocking. It means "The Everlasting Covenant."

someone forgot to take his happy pill this morning!

There’s no rule that states you can’t mock He-brews or Geek 🤓 for that matter. So no, no happy pill 💊😂😂😂 you can share if you have some 😜

DAL

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 9:52 AM

Mark Barnes:
He adopts a “critical narratology” informed by such cultural practices as feminism and psychoanalysis.

That has a familiar ring. Sounds similar to some of those 'analytical tools' to which we Southern Baptists have been recently introduced.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 10:12 AM

I decided to grab the volume on Genesis. It seems to be considered good on Amazon, so we'll see. I'm not looking for viewpoints as much as gleanings from research. 

The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

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Darrell Tan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 1 2019 6:28 PM

I'd not examined Berit Olam before, but I read the commentary on Psalm 1 (Google Books preview) and found it good.

Relevant literary analysis.

New insights include: the first word of the psalm begins with the first Hebrew letter; the last word, with the last letter.

Example of a thoughtful theological insight: "What delights us invades us."

Paul Caneparo:

Has anyone got any views on the Verbum +1s.

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