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Armando Javier Arteaga Unigarro | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Aug 3 2019 5:50 PM

People!!! Check This Out!!! It's probably one of the greatest things I've seen since I am a Verbum User (V6):

https://verbum.com/product/182577/verbum-8-biblicum-standard StarStarStarStarStar

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 3 2019 6:45 PM

Is there a reason you have not upgraded to V8? You can do so for free assuming your computer is compatible.

This is indeed great news - I find the selection of resources to be very telling on two points (1) the multinational approach to Bibles and (2) the degree to which the resources are not "denominational". Good Bible study is truly good Bible study, across multiple traditions.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 3 2019 11:12 PM

MJ. Smith:
This is indeed great news - I find the selection of resources to be very telling on two points (1) the multinational approach to Bibles and (2) the degree to which the resources are not "denominational". Good Bible study is truly good Bible study, across multiple traditions.

While I applaud the multilingualism, it's adding about $100 to the purchase price. It would have been even better if there were perhaps a couple of versions of this package - a multilingual version and an English version.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2019 12:02 AM

Mark Barnes:
It would have been even better if there were perhaps a couple of versions of this package - a multilingual version and an English version.

I suspect that the Pontifical Biblical Institute built the collection with the various universities/colleges of Rome in mind. (Much to my delight those include the Collegium Russicum which also trains Russian Orthodox priests.) But, yes, there is a market for an English based package.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 4 2019 2:59 PM

MJ. Smith:
Is there a reason you have not upgraded to V8? You can do so for free assuming your computer is compatible.

I may be wrong, but I took his comment to mean that this is the greatest thing he has seen since becoming a Verbum user, which he became at V6.  

Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

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Joseph Turner:

I may be wrong, but I took his comment to mean that this is the greatest thing he has seen since becoming a Verbum user, which he became at V6.  

Bullseye!, I actually own a lot of base packs: V8 Portfolio Cool, St. Paul Center Lvl. 3 Coffee, two L8 Silver Lightning, "Unfiltered" Sleep, Academic Pro Geeked, and a couple Starter purchased with coupons Paradise... And now: just waiting for a good discount to purchase Biblicum!! Star (Not included in this current Base Pack's Sale...)Confused

I can also think about the multilingual background for which the package was intended, and I'm thankful for the German and Spanish translations; but I wish for those "public domain" versions to not weight too heavy on the overall price... Money

And, totally agree with M.J! Noteworthy in the critical level of Bible study: «Truth is like gold: no matter in whose hands it is, gold is worth gold» (I mean... Just look at the author lists of Hermeneia or AYB).

Some Background for the pack: https://blog.verbum.com/2019/04/verbum-to-cosponsor-conference-in-rome-jesus-and-the-pharisees/

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Hi all,

Glad to see the interest in the Biblicum Standard!  It was launched two weeks ago, in anticipation of the Catholic Biblical Association's Annual General Meeting July 27-30.

The package is intended to reflect, as closely as possible, the exact package the faculty and students at the Biblicum are using.  The school's package was designed in collaboration with their then Dean of Students (there is a new Dean starting new academic year) Fr. Peter Dubovksy, SJ.  The package was not designed with other schools in mind, but specifically with the needs of the faculty and students at the Biblicum.

To the comment about more or different packages, we are planning to design several more packages in collaboration with the Fr. Peter and others at the Biblicum.  This package and further Biblicum-branded packages have been a part of the conversation with them from the beginning.

There are several titles that the Biblicum has in their package that are not available in the package we've made available to the public.  They are few, mostly from publishers who don't normally allow us to put their content into base packages, but got special permissions for the academic bulk license.  

You can find more information about the package--and purchase the additional titles on in the commercial package here:

https://verbum.com/biblicum-pontifical-biblical-institute

Thanks, 

Craig

Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |

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I also wanted to point out that the Biblicum Standard is also a part of the current 20% base packages promotion that is running on Verbum and Logos right now.  That's $500 off the package.  Typically, discounts like that only get offered at conferences.

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 5 2019 6:49 PM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

I also wanted to point out that the Biblicum Standard is also a part of the current 20% base packages promotion that is running on Verbum and Logos right now.  That's $500 off the package.  Typically, discounts like that only get offered at conferences.

Does Academic Discount does not apply on this?

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Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

Biblicum Standard is also a part of the current 20% base packages promotion that is running on Verbum and Logos right now.  That's $500 off the package.  Typically, discounts like that only get offered at conferences.

Thank you Mr. St. Clair. I see that Logos Spanish packs are discounted 20% too, but Verbum Spanish packs are not... Is this a mistake?

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LogosEmployee

We'll add the Verbum Spanish packages too! Check back later today.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2019 6:20 PM

Craig or Donald,

I am a Verbum Now subscriber.  Does the dynamic price reflect data sets and features I have through that subscription but do not own?

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 8 2019 6:39 PM

… and another question:

Is it possible to see a side-by-side comparison between Biblicum and the other Verbum Base Packages?

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LogosEmployee

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the questions about the Biblicum Standard package.  Dynamic Pricing won't reflect the Verbum Now features since you don't actually own them.

We have the side-by-side comparison for the main Verbum base packages, but we don't have a way on the website, right now, to compare other base packages that we create outside of the main product offering.  Your best bet is visit the product page while logged in to see what resources in the package you own and which ones you don't.

I hope that helps.

Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |

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LogosEmployee

Steve,

One other quick note and point of clarification.  The Biblicum Standard packages does contain the features that are in the Verbum 8 Full Feature Upgrade.  The current promotion of 20% off takes $500 off the package price, which would take care of most of the cost of that Full Feature Upgrade.

If you were to upgrade to that package we could work it out so you don't pay for the same features twice, which is the whole point of the Dynamic Pricing.

Let us know....

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 9 2019 2:00 PM

Thanks Craig,

My intention is to continue with my Verbum Now subscription.  Would it be possible for someone to email me with the adjusted price?

Deacon Steve

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LogosEmployee

Steve,

Let me see what I can do.  I'll let you know next week.  My thought was that will all of the Verbum 8 features in the Biblicum Standard package you wouldn't need  Verbum Now.  But if you want to continue with it that changes what I had in mind.

To be continued....

Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 10 2019 5:34 PM

Sounds good.  Let me know what the options are and associated prices so I can think through it.  Thanks for helping :)

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LogosEmployee

mike:

Does Academic Discount does not apply on this?

The Academic Discount can be applied to Biblicum Standard.

Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 30 2019 8:13 AM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

Steve,

Let me see what I can do.  I'll let you know next week.  My thought was that will all of the Verbum 8 features in the Biblicum Standard package you wouldn't need  Verbum Now.  But if you want to continue with it that changes what I had in mind.

To be continued....

Craig,

Any update?

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