If I have TDOT, do I need HALOT?

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Richard J. Ward | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Aug 27 2019 3:13 PM

If I have TDOT, how much more information would HALOT add?

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 3:29 PM

One is a Theological Dictionary and the other a Lexicon. They’re 2 completely different animals. If you know a little bit of Hebrew HALOT is nice to have.  TDOT I read in the forums is dated and draws conclusions on theories that have been disproved by modern scholarship.  So may not be so helpful after all.  

DAL

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Richard J. Ward | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 3:41 PM

I guess that’s another question I have: What exactly is the difference between a lexicon (which seems to be a fancy word for “dictionary”) and a theological dictionary? When I use BDAG and Kittle, Brown, or NIDNTTE, there seems to be some overlap in information.

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Manuel Maria | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 4:00 PM

I suggest to visit this thread.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 4:02 PM

Richard J. Ward:
which seems to be a fancy word for “dictionary”

Vocabulary.com dictionary:
Lexicons are really dictionaries, though a lexicon usually covers an ancient language or the special vocabulary of a particular author or field of study. In linguistics, the lexicon is the total stock of words and word elements that carry meaning. Lexicon is from Greek lexikon (biblion)meaning "word(book)," ultimately going back to legein, "to speak."

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Richard J. Ward | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 4:12 PM

Manuel Maria:

I suggest to visit this thread.

Very helpful.

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Richard J. Ward | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 4:14 PM

DAL:

TDOT I read in the forums is dated and draws conclusions on theories that have been disproved by modern scholarship.  So may not be so helpful after all.  

DAL

Interesting.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 4:54 PM

Richard J. Ward:

DAL:

TDOT I read in the forums is dated and draws conclusions on theories that have been disproved by modern scholarship.  So may not be so helpful after all.  

DAL

Interesting.

Yep! Read the response by David Staveley in the link Manuel Maria provided.  You’ll find what I paraphrased about TDOT.

DAL

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Richard J. Ward | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 5:53 PM

DAL:

Yep! Read the response by David Staveley in the link Manuel Maria provided.  You’ll find what I paraphrased about TDOT.

DAL

I noticed. I’m searching online for a more thorough critique Yes

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 7:31 PM

If a seminary & formal language studies lie in your future, check with your school about what they require. While I have both for comparison purpose (& BDB as well) & consult all of them, my seminary required BDB. They're all pricey when you're buying other seminary books.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 10:44 PM

I find that HALOT rarely adds anything...uniquely helpful info less than 1% of the time. On the other hand, it's absolutely chock full of references to arcane German resources, if that floats anybody's boat.

Speaking of German resources, HALOT does sorta remind of the "The Emperor's New Clothes". Oh, wait...HCA was Danish.

My bad! Stick out tongue

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Puddin’ | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 27 2019 11:39 PM

Personally, I‘m a believer in having as many reputable original language resources that I can.  HALOT is basically the BDAG of the OT corpus and is a respected resource for formal papers, articles, etc. (which is very important for me at least).

However, I would also add that once you acquire HALOT, BDB, NIDOTTE (and perhaps a DSS critical apparatus and LXX lexicon) you will have all you need for OT lexicography short of actually taking Hebrew & Aramaic (for Daniel & parts of Ezra).  

Of course, it takes quite a while to accumulate such a vast library.

Just my 2 cents.

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