Data Lookup Problem: Inconsistent Louw-Nida results in linked lexicon and context menu. (8.8 Beta 1 WIN 8.8.0.0007)

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2019 6:20 AM

See image below for view of setup and problem. Logs attached below image.

(NOTE: This has been a problem for many Logos versions - just finally took the time to document. This happens on multiple words throughout NT Interlinear Bibles - this is just one example.)

Setup:

  • Open ESV Bible to 1 John 3:1
  • Set ESV to Link Set "F"
  • Turn on the ESV Inline reverse Interlinear (IRI) with Surface, Manuscript and Louw-Nida 
  • Open Information Tool
  • Open Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains. (DBLG) 
  • Set DBLG to Link Set "F"
  • Turn on DBLG multiple resources display with DBAG and Louw-Nida (LN)

Replication and results

  • Left click on the word "love" in 1 John 3:1
  • The ESV IRI shows the correct LN semantic value of 25.43
  • The Information tool correctly shows the LN semantic value of 25.43
  • LN under DBLG shows the WRONG LN semantic value of 23.28
  • Right-click the word "love" in 1 John 3:1
  • Left click on the lemma value in the left context menu
  • Hover over Louw-Nida in the right context menu, Look up section (May need resource prioritization to get this to show as an option)
  • The WRONG LN semantic value of 23.28 is displayed in the pop-up
  • Left click on the word "love" in 1 John 3:1 a second time
  • The LN semantic value under DBLG changes to show the CORRECT LN semantic value of 25.43 (the LN value in the right-click menu continues to display the WRONG value of 23.28 when retested)

6712.Logos LN.zip

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 24 2019 5:12 AM

Just checking to see if there is a status on this.

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 2 2019 5:35 AM

Hi Faithlife.  Can I get a status on this?  Case created?  Working on it? ...

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 14 2019 1:40 PM

Tim Hensler:

Hi Faithlife.  Can I get a status on this?  Case created?  Working on it? ...

Hi Tim,

I'm sorry you didn't get a response. There is an open case, but I'm not sure when someone will be able to look into it.

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 14 2019 7:25 PM

Thank you, Philana, for the update.

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 3 2020 10:49 AM

Bump - please let me know if there is anything else I can provide or do to help this move forward.  Thank you.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 5 2020 7:27 PM

As the access is on lemma (to DBLG), it is going to be difficult to get the correct LN number in Louw-Nida as a multi-resource. The first entry for ἀγάπη is LN23.28 as you will see by pasting the lemma into the Find box of LN (in its own tab), or by scrolling DBLG with LN as a multi-resource.

Dave
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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 5 2020 8:15 PM

Hi Dave,

That makes sense, but then why does the LN change to the correct value when I click on the word the second time?  And stays on the correct value with each subsequent click?  Somehow it seems to figure out what the right LN value is, but why not on the first click?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2020 1:58 PM

I can only think that therein lies the bug.

Dave
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