Father as a figurative language term

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Joshua Briscoe | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019 2:51 AM

Figurative language term search seems to be a great feature and thanks for all the hard work Logos folks put into it. There may be some gaps, though, and I wonder if I can label passages manually with it.

For example, when I right-click "Father" in Luke 11:2, one of the context menu options is to search for the figurative language term "father" as well as a figurative language type "father as God." Unfortunately, they don't seem to pick up on OT uses of father (or father as God), even though the search function suggests it isn't language specific - e.g., Deuteronomy 32:6, Isaiah 64:8. When I actually go to those OT passages and open the context menu for "father," there is no indication as having either the aforementioned figurative language term or type. What does come up, though, is the sense "God <=> father (noun)," but this is strangely unavailable for the NT uses of the term father.

If I can't manually update these, are they in the process of being updated to better improve OT and NT connections? Thanks for any insights folks may have.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 3:08 AM

The last I heard - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/182260.aspx - there are no plans to expand Figurative Language to support the OT.

The best I am aware of we can do today is to search on the associated preaching theme - you can find that in the right-click context menu - which does find the two OT verses you mention. But it probably gives more results than you want.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 3:19 AM

Faithlife should respond to your questions.

I can only say that the the "Lexham Figurative Language of the Bible Glossary"  states  it is for the New Testament.

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Joshua Briscoe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 3:26 AM

Thanks, those comments are helpful.

Are there plans from Faithlife to then update the sense God <=> Father to include the NT?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 3:29 AM

You also might find Phil's suggestion at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/153034/1053967.aspx#1053967 helpful

Joshua Briscoe:
Are there plans from Faithlife to then update the sense God <=> Father to include the NT?

Hopefully Faithlife will respond to this one.

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Joshua Briscoe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 10 2019 10:23 AM

Thanks. Phil's suggestion is helpful if I were doing a comprehensive study of this topic. My inquiry is mostly related to the lack of reliability of these search tools. Of course I'm always checking what the computer gives me against what I know to be true about the Bible, but it sure is helpful if I can create a list from a search of, for example, every instance in which God is referenced as father. Now if I do any similar search in the future without applying significant search grammar as per Phil's recommendation, I must doubt the results.

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