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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 10 2019 12:34 PM

I wonder whether this link means that the New American Commentary volumes are going to be updated/replaced by a new series based on the Christian Standard Bible?

https://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/products/the-christian-standard-commentary-on-1-2-peter-jude/

Thomas Schreiner wrote the current New American Commentary on those books. The book is out next summer. 

Of course the NAC series is still incomplete - albeit only by 2 volumes. 

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2019 2:05 PM

Paul Caneparo:
replaced by a new series based on the Christian Standard Bible

It would make sense financially for them.  I suspect they pay a royalty on the NAC publication that they won't incur with their own CBS version.

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Tom Reynolds | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2019 2:38 PM

The NAC is based on the NIV text and the new series will obviously be based on the CSB text so they could reuse most of the material and just edit where necessary depending on differences between the two translations. I took a quick look at Jude and noticed that at v12 Schreiner prefers the CSB translation over the NIV. That's not surprising though, seeing as he's the co-chair of the translation team. In fact you'll notice that many of the CSB translation team members have written volumes for the NAC series. https://csbible.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/TranslationTeam_HCSB-CSB-1.pdf

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2019 4:57 PM

Paul Caneparo:
I wonder whether this link means that the New American Commentary volumes are going to be updated/replaced by a new series based on the Christian Standard Bible?

That would not give me any incentive to update the volumes I already own. I don't use either NIV or CSB on a regular basis.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 10 2019 5:53 PM

I leave the base text as only relevant if someone uses it in a Bible study group context. Most of us need to know what the Bible is saying and that is going to be beyond a given translation. The NIV/CSB merely point towards how modern translators word something for current usage and it's much more applicable to someone with a print copy than any Logos user who hits a button to see a bunch of translations at a glance.

Only a thoroughly updated commentary is worth ponying up to get.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 11 2019 12:56 PM

Paul Caneparo:
Thomas Schreiner wrote the current New American Commentary on those books. The book is out next summer. 

Dr. Schreiner briefly talks about the rebranding of the NAC series in this podcast with Dr. Andreas Kostenberger - https://cbs.mbts.edu/podcast/mentoring-the-next-generation-of-scholars/ Beginning at 3:30 Schreiner says his update to the CSC is a "major revision"

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 11 2019 1:07 PM

David Thomas:

Paul Caneparo:
Thomas Schreiner wrote the current New American Commentary on those books. The book is out next summer. 

Dr. Schreiner briefly talks about the rebranding of the NAC series in this podcast with Dr. Andreas Kostenberger - https://cbs.mbts.edu/podcast/mentoring-the-next-generation-of-scholars/ Beginning at 3:30 Schreiner says his update to the CSC is a "major revision"

Good to know it's a major revision and not just changing the Bible text or re-branding exercise.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 11 2019 3:38 PM

You would think since 2003 would add more reflection. Not too hard to see.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 14 2019 8:20 AM

Is FL changing the name on out NAC series or are they going to leave it the same?

DAL

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 14 2019 8:24 AM

DAL:

Is FL changing the name on out NAC series or are they going to leave it the same?

DAL

From one of the posts above it sounds as though the first volume is significantly different to the existing volume by the same author - so not just a rebranding exercise or simply changing the Bible text to the CSB translation. Therefore, I think it will be deemed a totally new series - leaving the existing NAC series to remain as is and presumably never to be updated as such.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 14 2019 8:30 AM

Paul Caneparo:

DAL:

Is FL changing the name on out NAC series or are they going to leave it the same?

DAL

From one of the posts above it sounds as though the first volume is significantly different to the existing volume by the same author - so not just a rebranding exercise or simply changing the Bible text to the CSB translation. Therefore, I think it will be deemed a totally new series - leaving the existing NAC series to remain as is and presumably never to be updated as such.

I hope they at least finish the remaining volumes.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 20 2019 6:48 AM

DAL:
I hope they at least finish the remaining volumes.

I agree.

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 12:41 AM

Here's the preface to the revised edition. It's been out for some time, but no pre-pub in Logos yet.

It is a privilege and a joy to revise the first edition of my commentary on 1 & 2 Peter and Jude. I have read widely (but not exhaustively) recent research for the sake of the revision, and I have rethought every line written and made quite a few changes. I haven’t changed my mind significantly on major interpretive questions, but I have added new material and nuanced what was said in the first edition. For instance, interacting with feminist thought has helped me think through more clearly the import of Peter’s words to wives in 1 Pet 3:1–6, and I have also tried to think through the Trinitarian implications where such a discussion is relevant.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 7:16 AM

Paul Caneparo:
It is a privilege and a joy to revise the first edition of my commentary on 1 & 2 Peter and Jude. I have read widely (but not exhaustively) recent research for the sake of the revision, and I have rethought every line written and made quite a few changes. I haven’t changed my mind significantly on major interpretive questions, but I have added new material and nuanced what was said in the first edition. For instance, interacting with feminist thought has helped me think through more clearly the import of Peter’s words to wives in 1 Pet 3:1–6, and I have also tried to think through the Trinitarian implications where such a discussion is relevant.

This makes it seem to me a new commentary. You can't really expect the same scholar to make bigger changes than are indicated here--unless, I suppose, that scholar has changed ecclesiastical/denominational affiliation, in which case it might happen.

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 19 2021 11:06 PM

For some reason Logos have the 2 Corinthians volume in pre-pub. Unlike the revised 1, 2 Peter & Jude and Galatians volumes which are available in print, the 2 Corinthians volume isn't in print yet. Oddly for a revision, it seems as though the revised volume is 200 pages shorter if the B&H and Logos sites are to believed.

https://www.logos.com/product/204551/2-corinthians

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