BUG - θορυβάζω in BDAG not in BWS

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HansK | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 31 2019 1:53 PM

θορυβάζω in BDAG does not show up in BDAG, when doing a BWS on 'troubled' in Lk 10:41 NKJV. 

It does, however, when using NASB ('bothered').

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 1 2020 6:05 AM

I can confirm what you see. In fact, by testing several RI-enabled bibles it seems to be that a BWS coming from any Textus Receptus/Majority-Text/Byzantine Text-based bible (such as KJV, NKJV, German Schlachter 2000) will only show a subset of lexicons, whereas the BWS coming from a modern standard text such as NASB or NIV will show all lexicons.

In my library the list of lexicons will be reduced from 22 to 15, omitting e.g. BDAG and LSJ but also DBL Greek and the analytical lexicons.

Interestingly, a BWS started from the guides menu will use the full set of lexicons, even if a TR-bible is prioritized as default translation, which gives disturbing screenshots and what I would call inconsistent results.

Underlying is a textual variant: The Byz text seems to read τυρβαζη wheras NA28 and SBLGNT read θορυβάζῃ . The apparatus of those Greek NTs inform about that. However, since the RI's not really give the textual base for the respective bible (sometimes this base is not even known), but give mostly the Logos standard base (SBLGNT), this doesn't become apparent. The "missing" lexicons actually carry the lemma τυρβάζω associated with Luke 10:41, so Logos in the background seems to know about the variant issue, but doesn't make it transparent to the user. 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 3 2020 3:52 PM

NB.Mick:
In fact, by testing several RI-enabled bibles it seems to be that a BWS coming from any Textus Receptus/Majority-Text/Byzantine Text-based bible (such as KJV, NKJV, German Schlachter 2000) will only show a subset of lexicons, whereas the BWS coming from a modern standard text such as NASB or NIV will show all lexicons.

All RI's have the same lemma θορυβάζω but the NKJV, KJV 1900, AV 1873 have a different MSS. And DBL Greek is not linked to them.

The Greek TR have the same MSS, but give mixed results where DBL Greek is linked to some of them!

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 12:17 PM

Thanks, all for the report. There are a few different things going on here, but it is on our radar.

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