Reading plans for books by chapter

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Danny Parker | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 7 2020 2:19 PM

Did I miss something, or is this a bug. I created a reading plan for:

 Jeff Myers, The Secret Battle of Ideas about God: Overcoming the Outbreak of Five Fatal Worldviews (Colorado Springs, CO: David C Cook, 2017).

The reading plan was generated by chapter. Just what I want.

However, when I created a reading plan for: 


Edward T. Welch, Created to Draw Near: Our Life as God’s Royal Priests (Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2020), 5.

The reading plan will only generate a plan by page numbers. 

Do individual books have to have 'chapter' tags during their creation? Is it based on 'type of book'? On the surface these appear to be the same, but they are behaving differently. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 7 2020 3:15 PM

Danny Parker:

I created a reading plan for:

 Jeff Myers, The Secret Battle of Ideas about God: Overcoming the Outbreak of Five Fatal Worldviews (Colorado Springs, CO: David C Cook, 2017).

The reading plan was generated by chapter. Just what I want.

Great! This is a type:ebook resource from the former Vyrso store, that's why it works so good with automated Reading Plans: no page number index. The algorithm hasn't much to work with, except chapter headings, so it does. 

Danny Parker:

However, when I created a reading plan for: 


Edward T. Welch, Created to Draw Near: Our Life as God’s Royal Priests (Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2020), 5.

The reading plan will only generate a plan by page numbers. 

This is a type:logos resource, and this is how the algorithm works for most of those, since the do have page numbers. As a user of a page-number-indexed resource you can either live with the Automated Plan, or build a custom Reading Plan that breaks at chapter ends or paragraph breaks within larger chapters. But then you need to do your own computation.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 7 2020 3:46 PM

If indexed by page number, the Plan will be based on that. If there is no Reference box (for page numbers, bible references, etc), the Plan will be based on headings, which may include chapters.

I have a resource with chapters, but the Plan is based on headings (it has multiple headings per chapter).

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Danny Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 9:03 AM

Thanks. I had discovered that the 'more functional' resource was Vyrso, so the explanations makes sense.

The page number approach is pretty worthless in my opinion, at least for a quick read of a general book. Way more difficult than it needs to be. Another example of complexity defeating the purpose - and even more so for some average user who just wants simple things to work - doesn't want to be an 'expert'. Even for me, a more advanced user, I just don't want the hassle to take a lot of time and effort for things that I shouldn't have to. Getting too old to learn / relearn stuff that is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Needs to be ultra simple.

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Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 2:29 PM

This needs to be fixed in L9.

Generate Reading Plan by chapter, section, etc in ALL resources.

If that means adding chapter, section, et al headings to the index, then DO IT!!

Reading Plans is a great idea that needs practicality and usability to boot.

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 3:02 PM

Danny if you are reading by chapters you probably don't need a reading plan. They are designed to show us where to begin and stop reading. We already know that if we are reading a certain number of chapters a day. I look at the number of chapters and decide what time frame I want to complete it in then use favourites to keep track of the books I am reading. I hope this helps. 

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Danny Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 10:58 PM

Yeh, it's not essential. Many work arounds.

The point, was that something like reading plans would seem logically to be a quick way to read through book with logical reading sequences. Someone not expecting a micro/technical approach would seem to think a reading plan for books other than the Bible would be based on chapters or headings or some logical breaking point. To have to manually manipulate something else to achieve the simple goal is totally counter intuitive. So much so that unless you had a very specific, technical need, you would just use some other means. 

I use it for Bible readings - but it is really not useful for my other needs. Leaving the book open and marking it with a highlighter is way more simple to keep track, but doesn't create the same sense of accountability as a daily reading plan. 

For me it only a single example of where complexity gets in the way of usefulness. An issue that arises in a number of areas. Like a computer programmer that develops a slick solution that a user doesn't want (been there done that). hahaha

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Danny Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 8 2020 10:59 PM

Oh, and Mike I did not say thanks. Appreciate your thoughts and helpfulness.

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Michael Kinch | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 9 2020 5:01 AM

Thanks Danny. Have a great day and be richly blessed.

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