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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 29 2020 5:54 AM

Does anyone know of an online source for the 1611 KJV (or any of the later editions)? The recent comparison of the original and revised ESV got me wondering about identifying changes in the KJV text over time. I looked at Logos, Monergism, and CCEL, and didn't find any 1611 texts. 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 7:57 AM

One Hope, there must be more to your request? Googling 1611 KJV Online will present you more than you want ('which' 1611??). And Googling KJV 1611 alone will bring up the Cambridge differences (1769).

Ruth 3:15 answers which 1611 (earliest, wrong pronoun).

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 8:15 AM

Denise:

One Hope, there must be more to your request? Googling 1611 KJV Online will present you more than you want ('which' 1611??). And Googling KJV 1611 alone will bring up the Cambridge differences (1769).

Ruth 3:15 answers which 1611 (earliest, wrong pronoun).

You're correct, there are lots of sites which will display verses or provide comparisons. I prefer to do original source research, and not rely on the answers provided by others, especially in the area of KJV-onlyism, where the "others" so often lack scholarly ability. I would like to have a digital version of the entire original text on my computer, with which I could directly compare various KJV texts chapter by chapter. 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 1:51 PM

Not wishing to belabor your time, but this issue (in Logosland) goes pretty far back, and that is 'how source-y do you want to get'? The one with the printer errors and oldish english, early correcteds (which printer), or cleaned up for normal people. If I read you literally, then the facsimile editions. But digital comparison means not the original. To illustrate, the 'u' and 'v' were space dependent. Just discussing.

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Nathan M Majewski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 29 2020 6:36 PM

http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/printedbooksNew/index.cfm?TextID=kjbible

This is a scan of a first edition, first folio (I believe), with "he" at Ruth 3:15. It's about as "original" as you can get. Unfortunately, the navigation of this site is terrible. But the images (at 8x) are stunning!

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 5:42 AM

OK, so what I'm gathering is that about the only way to get a digital version of the original printing of the KJV would be to make my own by transcribing the available images.

My curiosity is due to the claims of some that the KJV is the only actual Scripture that exists (at least in English). I wanted to compare the editions they are likely to use to the original text, but it seems that even the editions they use are going to differ from one another based on Oxford vs Cambridge, 1769 vs 1900 vs 1972, etc., etc., etc.

Thanks for your input!

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Nathan M Majewski | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 5:55 AM

That's helpful to know more what you're looking for. I went too far back to the source on my first link! Big Smile Try this site instead:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/

For authentication, it has "he" in Ruth 3:15 and even uses the "thorn + superscript e" abbreviation of "the" in Luke 2:8 and the overline to indicate letters dropped from words in Luke 2:3. I was not familiar with this site until finding it in a search a few minutes ago. I hope perhaps it will serve your purposes.

Blessings!

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 6:38 AM

Well, this is (obviously) just my opinion.

Each major religion often points back to early writings. By the time they do that, a paper-tiger has been created demanding divine participation at the print-shop, or with the translator's literal hand. The Book of Mormon had its issues. So also the KJV. The original LXX is floating around somewhere. And an original Hebrew Bible is anyone's guess. Doctrine has never done well with writings ... oral is far easier ... just make it up (the history).

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 6:43 AM

what about this one:

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611-Bible/

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Gregory Lawhorn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 7:04 AM

Thanks for pointing that one out. Unfortunately, it’s not downloadable. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 3 2020 11:51 AM

One Hope Fellowship:
Does anyone know of an online source for the 1611 KJV (or any of the later editions)? The recent comparison of the original and revised ESV got me wondering about identifying changes in the KJV text over time.

Logos => The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha, rev. ed. (NCPB) includes link to Academic Blog (June 2017) => https://blog.logos.com/2017/06/youve-probably-never-seen-real-king-james-version/

Text Comparison example of 1 John 5

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