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Carl R. Denti | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Mar 5 2020 3:00 PM

Can anyone please explain to me, how I can do this morph search.  I want to find every verb in the book of Ecclesiastes that has a 1st person, singular, masculine ending.  I have entered h:@ then skipped the stem and selected 1st person, masculine, singular but cannot get any results.  If anyone can help I would genuinely appreciate the assistance. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 1:05 AM

Hi Carl - and welcome to the forums

I've been looking at this and, as far as I can see, there are no verbs in the entire OT (I'm checking LHB and ESV) which are tagged as both masculine and first person.

That explains why you aren't getting any results - but I don't know Hebrew so can't comment on whether that is valid tagging or not. Hopefully someone else will be able to comment further.

Graham

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Colin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 1:47 AM

Hi Carl, 

The reason neither you nor Graham can get any results in a search for a 1st person masculine singular verb is because Hebrew verbs have no distinction between masculine and feminine in the first person. There is only one form, often called a '1st person common singular.' In the Logos morph search it is labelled as 'unmarked gender.' 

I hope this helps, 

Colin 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 2:46 AM

Thanks Colin

That was really helpful to me

Graham

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Carl R. Denti | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 8:17 AM

Hi Coin and thank you for the quick reply.  The reason I decided to try the 1st person singular masculine form to do the search is because, I don't see common singular or unmarked gender in the morph search fields available in Logos 8.  Can you tell me how I find those fields, or what I should enter in morph search will complete my search.  Thank you so much for helping an old man who is computer challenged.

Carl 

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Carl R. Denti | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 8:19 AM

Also COLIN, PLEASE FORGIVE MY MISTYPING YOUR NAME!  LIFE BECOMES MORE INTERESTING WITH EACH PASSING YEAR

CARL 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 10:41 AM

Carl,

The BHS 4.18 and the Andersen Forbes texts have a choice for common under gender in their morphology.

Hope this helps.

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Colin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 10:44 AM

John, 

You beat me to it! I had just started typing and looked back to check a detail.   

Carl, 

There's nothing to forgive! I have nothing but respect and admiration for someone who keeps on learning as the years pass by. 

I was using the BHS SESB 2.0 and it gave the option for 'unmarked gender'. As Carl shows above, other Hebrew texts offer the 'common' option alongside masculine and feminine. 

Shalom, 

Colin. 

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Carl R. Denti | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 6 2020 12:37 PM

Lord bless you dear brothers!  Thank you so much for helping this 75 year old severely computer challenged old man learn how to do this search.  It will be an enormous help to me in seeking to demonstrate what I believe is the autobiographical nature of the book of Ecclesiastes.  And be of immense value to my study in the future.  So kind of you men.  I can't thank you enough

Carl 

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