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Blair Laird | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Mar 28 2020 2:41 AM
Tradition and Traditions: The Biblical, Historical, and Theological Evidence for Catholic Teaching on Tradition by Yves Congar

 978-0536001733 ISBN-10: 0536001731
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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 4:19 AM


I read that in seminary, and it was transformational.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 5:40 AM

"Tradition and Traditions" has been hailed internationally as a classic, perhaps the classic, on the subject. Its presentation of the biblical, historical, and theological evidence for Catholic teaching on Tradition is as electrifying today as it was the day it exploded onto the scene. Those who object to Catholic teaching on Tradition will find their arguments shaken to their foundations and very likely toppled. -- From the foreword by Patrick Madrid

Sounds interesting BUT for $150 to $300 for a copy - out of my price range unless Logos can get it published for $20.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 7:31 AM

I can't speak to this particular book. But the subject merits coverage in Logos. Especially, what really underlies the Catholic/Protestant divide. 

I stole this comment from the above Amazon page (now, since I stole it, it can't be copyrighted by the original composer):

"The fullest and most convincing explanation and justification for non-Biblical Catholic tradition and traditions ever written. The protestant doctrine of "by the Bible alone" (sola Scriptura) is both unbiblical (it's found nowhere in the Bible) and untraditional (it was rejected by the Fathers of the Church and never taught by any of the Apostles - in fact, in several places in his letters St. Paul asks his readers to follow the oral [unwritten] traditions that he has taught them). This book provides all of the evidence for tradition, from the Bible [both Old and New Testaments] to the Church Fathers down to the Middle Ages, as the necessary complement, along with a valid teaching authority (bishops in apostolic succession), to Sacred Scripture. From the beginning of Christianity, the rule of faith has been Bible + Tradition, both interpreted within a living Church led by legitimate spiritual authority (magisterium)... not the Bible alone, much less one's private interpretation of it. The protestant doctrines of Christianity "by the Bible alone" and salvation "by faith alone" (which is contradicted by the Letter of James, several letters of Paul, and most importantly, Jesus' own teachings on salvation in the Gospels) were both inventions of the ex-Catholic monk Martin Luther in the 16th century."

I'd assume, similar thinking underlies continuous-revelation traditions (LDS, etc).

"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 28 2020 8:21 AM

David Ames:
Sounds interesting BUT for $150 to $300 for a copy - out of my price range unless Logos can get it published for $20.

well, sort of. Logos publishes Congar's "The Meaning of Tradition"  for only $13.99. This is the summary of the larger "Tradition and Traditions" and according to Avery Dulles' preface "its is more orderly and concise and preferable as an introduction to the theme."

Still, it would be beneficial to have the larger book in Logos/Verbum. 

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