What who assign "Ranked" number in Library?

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Deon Holtzhausen | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2020 12:14 AM

Hi all and thanks for the advice.

I have attached a screenshot of type:lexicon

My question: Who or what decides the priority of this type of books in my library? Can I assume that #1 is the better of them all and then the rest follow?

I honestly don't have a clue which of my Lexicons I can consider as the better ones and which not.

Will appreciate some light on how Logos Prioritises types of books in my library.

God bless.

Deon

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 12:17 AM

I don't know what criteria Logos uses for prioritization, but you can prioritize them based on your preference. Drag the highest priority to the top of the list. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019683652-Prioritize-Resources

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Deon Holtzhausen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 12:39 AM

Thanks for the reply. That I can do. I am more interested in how books in the Library are ranked.

Lets say I want to prioritise my Lexicons. To be honest, I don't have a clue which ones are better than others. Can I be lead by their rank in my library?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 1:12 AM

The rankings are assigned by a computer algorithm.  IIRC it is some form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf%e2%80%93idf

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Deon Holtzhausen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 1:21 AM

Thanks very much.

Does this, in a way, mean that I can trust the rankings to prioritise, for example, Lexicons or commentaries in my Library? (Apologies for asking all these question. We are in lockdown in South Africa and use the time to better learn/use Logos.)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 1:48 AM

Deon Holtzhausen:
Does this, in a way, mean that I can trust the rankings to prioritise, for example, Lexicons or commentaries in my Library?

No sorry but it’s not going to do that. Bradley’s comment in https://community.logos.com/forums/p/151754/927699.aspx#927699 helps to clarify what the ranking does.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 1:49 AM

Deon,

glad to hear you spending lockdown time profitable! But let me give you another suggestion.

Logos already has an internal default priorization of commentaries, bibles, lexicons etc. Whether this conforms to the rank or not, I honestly don't know (and I seem to remember Phil or Bradley once posting something that led me to believe that rank is meaningful only in searches, giving an indication of relevance of the resource to the filter terms, but not meaningful on the unfiltered library - but of course I may be wrong. And kudos to MJ for knowing the real science behind it!). But since you said you do not know any of the works you are about to prioritize, I'd suggest you just leave them as they are for the time being.

Priorization is intended to help you in making the software customizable to your needs in terms of "what works best for me" - and that will differ considerably based on your research interest, your theological mindset, your personal disposition in processing information, the goal of your research (the weekly youth-group input or a PhD dissertation) etc. 

So my suggestion would be to use Logos to do a real or invented study on one or more topics, such as the resurrection of Jesus, or atonement theory, or the eucharist, whatever suits you. Run the Logos Factbook and some meaningful guides and searches. In course of this you will probably find some of the upcoming lexicons and commentaries more helpful than others (they seem to have the right depth of treatment, whereas others are too short and shallow/too longwinded and boring, they seem to be helpful in explaining the topic and the bible to you, they may induce you to dig deeper, to consider new explanations or related topics, while others only let you nod or violently shake your head etc). Take note of those helpful ones and, once you gathered some data, prioritize those. I think this will be more helpful for getting the priorization right for you - and you will gather experience with Logos along the way, and research a topic.   

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Deon Holtzhausen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 2 2020 4:58 AM

Hi.

Thank you so much for your thorough reply. I have already prioritised some commentaries I bought and here and there a lexicon. My fear is that I might be missing out on some good resources because I have prioritised them wrong. I mean, it is really impossible to work from a library of 2000 books.

Thank you very much. I will do as per your suggestion. Thank you once again.

Deon

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 3 2020 12:27 AM

Deon Holtzhausen:
I have already prioritised some commentaries I bought and here and there a lexicon. My fear is that I might be missing out on some good resources because I have prioritised them wrong. I mean, it is really impossible to work from a library of 2000 books.

As stated already, Logos does a reasonable job of priortizing resources by default, but you will have your own preferences. So it is important to realise that you don't have to prioritize 2000 resources, and that you can't prioritize the Monograph resources (type:monograph). Let me show you what I prioritize along with the number of resources that are actually useful to prioritize:

  1. English Bibles (type:Bible lang:English) ---> 5 to 10
  2. Septuagint Bibles (type:Bible subject:O.T.--Greek) ---> 1 to 5
  3. Greek Bibles (type:Bible Subject:N.T.--Greek) ---> 1 to 5
  4. Hebrew Bibles (type:Bible lang:Hebrew) ---> 1 to 5
  5. Bible Commentaries (type:Bible-Commentary) ---> 5 to 20 Series or Single-Volume Commentaries. If you have different Collections for commentaries, prioritize the top ones in each collection for Passage Guide.
  6. Bible Dictionaries (type:encyclopedia) ---> 5 to 10
  7. English Dictionaries (type:Dictionary)  ---> 1 or 2
  8. Greek Lexicons (type:lexicon subject:greek)  ---> 1 to 5
  9. Hebrew Lexicons (type:lexicon subject:hebrew)  ---> 1 to 5
  10. Lectionary (type:lectionary) ---->  1 to 5
  11. Devotional (type:devotional) ---->  1 to 5

It's important to keep these categories separate i.e. don't mix them, or you will get a commentary when you expected a bible, or a Greek bible when you expected an English Bible.

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Deon Holtzhausen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 3 2020 3:32 AM

Thank you so much for your reply, Dave.

This helps me a lot. It is a pity that it is not possible to use headers in the list when prioritizing books.

Can I ask, why do you sometimes use books ranked -20, -10 and so on and not the top ones? (Just out of curiosity.)

It's a privilege to learn from many "Forum Mentors" like yourself and many others. I appreciate the time and effort you guys put in in helping learners like me. 🏆🥇👏👍

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 3 2020 3:59 AM

Deon Holtzhausen:
It is a pity that it is not possible to use headers in the list when prioritizing books.

yes. The user interface of the prioritizing feature has been discussed in the past, and there have been thoughts to change this - maybe with Logos 9. For the time being, there are workarounds to get section headers for the prioritization list. The idea is to prioritize a book that doesn't disturb the real priorities and have its Abbreviated Title work as section header.

Many users use the type:timeline resources for this. So you'd e.g. take the resource "Israel's Kings Timeline" and rename its Abbreviated Title to "----- Bibles -----"  or such, then prioritize it above the bibles. Keep in mind to have the bibles section higher then the commentaries.

As an alternative, some people built PBs from a near empty word document for this.

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