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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Apr 29 2020 10:31 PM

Is there a way to identify the resources in your library that are untagged? With L7 this was a snap. Not so, at least for me with L8.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 29 2020 10:38 PM

Sort by tag - those without tags sort to the top.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 2:16 AM

MJ. Smith:

Sort by tag - those without tags sort to the top.

I don't think I follow. As a test I removed all tags from the ESV. I went to filter and selected Tags->Mytags I could not see the ESV. Help!

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 2:39 AM

Amodeo:
selected Tags->Mytags I could not see the ESV. Help!

Sort on - no filters just click on the heading line for mytags and it will sort on that column.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 2:40 AM

I think what MJ is suggesting is that if you sort the Library by MyTags, then you can see those without tags from the facet on the left

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 2:54 AM

Graham Criddle:

I think what MJ is suggesting is that if you sort the Library by MyTags, then you can see those without tags from the facet on the left

Thanks, Graham 

Now I follow. The screenshot did wonders. I guess I'm a visual learner.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 3:04 AM

Graham,

Now I have another problem. When I go to add a tag, it disappears from the list that it's sorted to. What's the fix for that?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 3:32 AM

Amodeo:
When I go to add a tag, it disappears from the list that it's sorted to

Do you mean that when you add the tag to the resource, the resource disappears from the list of non-tagged resources?

If so, that is expected behaviour. 

What problem is it causing you?

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 3:38 AM

Yes, unless I memorize the title, I can't track where the title has gone off to! Inconvenient.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 4:02 AM

Amodeo:

Yes, unless I memorize the title, I can't track where the title has gone off to! Inconvenient.

What other things do you want to do to the resource apart from tagging it?

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 4:24 AM

Graham Criddle:

Amodeo:

Yes, unless I memorize the title, I can't track where the title has gone off to! Inconvenient.

What other things do you want to do to the resource apart from tagging it?

Add the tag is all. I's essential in constructing specialized collections as I'm sure you know.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 4:44 AM

Amodeo:
Add the tag is all.

So why do you still want to access it once you have applied the tag? I would have thought you would want it to disappear from the list so you can concentrate on the next one.

Sorry - I think I'm missing the point of what is not working for you.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 4:50 AM

Graham Criddle:

Amodeo:
Add the tag is all.

So why do you still want to access it once you have applied the tag? I would have thought you would want it to disappear from the list so you can concentrate on the next one.

Sorry - I think I'm missing the point of what is not working for you.

Complete answers are critical for cogent communication, so I welcome your indulgence. It's simple, I have a number of tags that I apply to most if not all of my resources. These 100+ resources are from a period when I wasn't a tagger. Just tidying up my work environment.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 5:54 AM

Amodeo:
I have a number of tags that I apply to most if not all of my resources

If you apply them all to a resource at the same time does that address the problem?

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 6:35 AM

Graham, You are a dear and I mean that in a gender neutral sense.Smile

If I follow your reasoning correctly, you mean for me to enter the data as a string of entries before I hit Enter. This works, but it still involves extra work in that I must now re-enter all of the data once more then open the resource and cleanup the string of data I originally entered, but this is a slight improvement, but it's still messy. I miss the L7 method of handling this process. It was elegant. I would like to label this current behavior a BUG and get the developers to reintroduce the former method. I'm dissatisfied by it all. Do you have any further tweaks you can recommend? And mind you there is still the matter of me correctly interpreting your suggestion in the first place!

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 7:14 AM

Amodeo:
If I follow your reasoning correctly, you mean for me to enter the data as a string of entries before I hit Enter

Yes - that is what I am suggesting

Amodeo:
open the resource and cleanup the string of data I originally entered

This I don't understand! The fact that the resource shows up in the untagged list suggests there aren't any tags there. So what data is there to clean up?

Maybe a short video of what you are doing would clarify if that is possible.

Amodeo:
I miss the L7 method of handling this process. It was elegant.

I admit I don't remember what was different about it. Can you enlighten me?

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 8:29 AM

Graham Criddle:

Amodeo:
open the resource and cleanup the string of data I originally entered

This I don't understand! The fact that the resource shows up in the untagged list suggests there aren't any tags there. So what data is there to clean up?

Maybe a short video of what you are doing would clarify if that is possible.

I don't think a video will help, but perhaps a screenshot of what I see after I have entered the string will drive home the point that once the string has been entered and one hits Enter the resource no longer shows up in the untagged category. And when I say I must clean up the entry what I mean to say is that inorder for the tags to function as intended they must be re-entered separately as is usual and the string now rendered meaningless must be deleted. See below:

N.B. The string serves only to remind the user of meaningful tags. Having served its intended purpose its usefulness is expired and it can now be safely and by necessity be deleted.

Graham Criddle:

Amodeo:
I miss the L7 method of handling this process. It was elegant.

I admit I don't remember what was different about it. Can you enlighten me?

The fog of time will not allow me to accurately recall the particulars, but I offer this. You could sort the Library by tags that had been assigned. And all of the corresponding resources would be under their respective headings. If you failed to assign a tag, there was a heading for this the nomenclature for which escapes me, perhaps someone like Denise can assist. Suffice this the resources that applied were listed and you could readily assign tags without all of the circumventions that now exists. I strongly support a return to a similar setting in this instance.

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Bill Shewmaker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 9:46 AM

Amodeo, when I purchase new resources, it is listed as "not rated by you" in my library. I tag each of them with all of the tags that I want them to be sorted by...THEN!!!, I apply a rating star. I have done it that way for about 4 or 5 years (since I started using the tags). I can apply all of the tags that I want or need to each resource without them "hiding themselves" while I am still trying to work on their tags. Until I put my star rating in place, those resources are still listed as "unrated" and therefore easier to find.

In the last couple of days, I purchased several bronze base packages that added approximately 300 resources (about 120 of those still remain to be tagged and rated), and today, I was able to quickly find those that I haven't tagged as yet.

If I have to retag multiple resources, I will usually take off my star rating until I can accomplish that task...then reapply the star rating, at which time the resource(s) "find their way back home" in my library. (If I only have to one resource to retag, I just locate that resource in my library and apply the appropriate tag. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 10:08 AM

Amodeo:
but perhaps a screenshot of what I see after I have entered the string will drive home the point that once the string has been entered and one hits Enter the resource no longer shows up in the untagged category

Thank you - the screenshot was helpful. But I'm still missing something!

As far as I can see we can add multiple tags to a resource which removes the need for any reminder string.

I've created a short video to demonstrate - https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ageu8AF7ERmDgb8UI2rKnSKqib9ung?e=1z5jWy 

Does this do what you need or am I (still!) missing something?

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 30 2020 12:32 PM

Graham Criddle:
As far as I can see we can add multiple tags to a resource which removes the need for any reminder string.

Sorry for the hiatus. I had to attend a meeting then I studied at length your video. I tried to duplicate as much as possible everything I saw on your work. I noticed something that may hold the key to why my program is not performing as it should. Notice that at the top of the Library panel it says "All > My Tags: (None)" then your results. See below that I am missing this setting. Could this be the flaw that results in unexpected behavior? Thanks so much for sticking it out with me. I am going to have a session with Customer Service. What I'm experiencing should not be.

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