eBooks for Translating the New Testament

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Lee | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, May 7 2020 1:30 PM

Logos might want to look into eBooks for Translating the New Testament, a series with some very useful features.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 11 2020 6:17 PM

Lee:

Logos might want to look into eBooks for Translating the New Testament, a series with some very useful features.

Lee,

I'm having trouble with my hotspot. So, I can't do justice to this quality suggestion. I'll have to keep it simple. The series is thoughtfully executed with a quality set of authors. Is great for exegesis and learning Greek grammar. I took the time to watch the video on the Ephesians resource and also took a Look Inside and was quite impressed. Please take the time to put this up on the Book Suggestion page as you have my 3 votes and I will help promote this useful series.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 11 2020 7:30 PM

See Book Suggestion and vote for the series. Single volume entered to follow guidelines. https://suggestbooks.uservoice.com/forums/308269-book-suggestions/suggestions/40400344-translating-ephesians-clause-by-clause-series 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 11 2020 9:22 PM

Unfortunately I don't use that system. I have so many suggestions that my votes would have been used up ages ago.

FWIW, thank you for supporting this suggestion. I hope Logos will consider its merits.


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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2020 12:01 AM

Lee:
Unfortunately I don't use that system. I have so many suggestions that my votes would have been used up ages ago.

Lee,

the uservoice system for Logos has different instances with settings:

  • The program functionality instance gives ten votes (3 max per suggestion) exactly to force users to prioritize so Logos developers can gauge the development effort against user needs.
  • The book suggestion instance gives every user a thousand votes and does not deduct votes spent, so you can support an unlimited number of book suggestions.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2020 12:07 AM

NB.Mick:

the uservoice system for Logos has different instances with settings:

  • The program functionality instance gives ten votes (3 max per suggestion) exactly to force users to prioritize so Logos developers can gauge the development effort against user needs.
  • The book suggestion instance gives every user a thousand votes and does not deduct votes spent, so you can support an unlimited number of book suggestions.

Thanks for clarifying. I still wouldn't use it though. The suggestion is a good one, it is what it is, I'll let Logos consider its merits.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2020 12:27 AM

Lee:

Logos might want to look into eBooks for Translating the New Testament, a series with some very useful features.

Is this really a live series? E.g. "Translating James Clause By Clause" is listed as forthcoming in 2017, but it is not available. Same for 1 Timothy. And those were listed as "available now" - the others to be produced in 2018 and following are not to be found anywhere, either. 

And do you know why they choose to call this "eBooks for translating" and then only offer them as Paperbacks?

Noting that 30+ USD for 150 pages sounds rather expensive, it looks a bit like they wanted to cash in from those eager to pay more (e.g. translators of exactly those books, students desperate for all help they can get for an assignment, seminary libraries) and then in a second wave make it available to the masses - but the project never made it through to wave two?

It also seems that the content of the stuff available got a little bit repackaged, more developed and then ended up in the Kregel series "The Big Greek Idea: XXX - An exegetical guide for preaching and teaching" (three times the size, much cheaper price, missing in Logos, too) - but maybe it was the other way around and the eBooks are a spin-off from preparatory work for the Kregel series?

 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2020 12:33 AM

NB.Mick:

Is this really a live series?

I can't speak authoritatively to that, but I'd think so.

NB.Mick:

And do you know why they choose to call this "eBooks for translating" and then only offer them as Paperbacks?

No. I'd really love to see it in electronic format.

NB.Mick:

Noting that 30+ USD for 150 pages sounds rather expensive

Like you, I'd love to see lower prices.

Perhaps the series will be priced and packaged differently if Logos editions are made? The exercises and tips are great for learners, exegetes and translators alike. Logos has a relationship with Dr. Bateman. They could look into it.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 12 2020 2:00 PM

NB.Mick:

Lee:

Logos might want to look into eBooks for Translating the New Testament, a series with some very useful features.

Is this really a live series? E.g. "Translating James Clause By Clause" is listed as forthcoming in 2017, but it is not available. Same for 1 Timothy. And those were listed as "available now" - the others to be produced in 2018 and following are not to be found anywhere, either. 

And do you know why they choose to call this "eBooks for translating" and then only offer them as Paperbacks?

Noting that 30+ USD for 150 pages sounds rather expensive, it looks a bit like they wanted to cash in from those eager to pay more (e.g. translators of exactly those books, students desperate for all help they can get for an assignment, seminary libraries) and then in a second wave make it available to the masses - but the project never made it through to wave two?

It also seems that the content of the stuff available got a little bit repackaged, more developed and then ended up in the Kregel series "The Big Greek Idea: XXX - An exegetical guide for preaching and teaching" (three times the size, much cheaper price, missing in Logos, too) - but maybe it was the other way around and the eBooks are a spin-off from preparatory work for the Kregel series?

 

Good Sleuthing Mick!

How on earth did you find the Kregel entry for these? Did you search on the author? I prefer the Translating Clause by Clause XXX (TCC) editions. I would only supplement the series with Kregel editions for books not offered in the TCC editions, which as it appears there are none so far. In any case, I hope Logos offers both.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

MacBook Pro macOS Catalina 10.15.6

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2020 9:43 AM

Bump to FL. Is there interest in pursuing one or both of these series? Lovers of NT Greek would like to know!Geeked

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

MacBook Pro macOS Catalina 10.15.6

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2020 10:18 AM

They are the same series.  As was pointed out earlier  Kregel Big Greek Idea Series is the rebrand.  If you look at the three volumes Kregel has, they have the same author as the other series.  

Great resource to have in dead tree format.  I have used the 1-3 John earlier and now am using the Philippians volume as I work through that book.

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Beloved Amodeo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2020 11:41 AM

Kenneth Neighoff:

They are the same series.  As was pointed out earlier  Kregel Big Greek Idea Series is the rebrand.  If you look at the three volumes Kregel has, they have the same author as the other series.  

Great resource to have in dead tree format.  I have used the 1-3 John earlier and now am using the Philippians volume as I work through that book.

TCC it is then.

Kregel catalogue is limited. Ken, I gather from having benefited from 1-3Jn you are moved to purchase Pp. But, how satisfied are you with the series and has it moved the needle of understanding the Greek significantly, meeting your approval?

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

MacBook Pro macOS Catalina 10.15.6

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 13 2020 1:18 PM

I am very satisfied with the Kregel series.  Even have the Ephesians volume.   I would go with the Kregel series and skip the other one, because of price.   

They have helped me trace and follow the argument clause by clause. 

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