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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 12:08 PM

Wasted time. Started with collections, but couldn't tell what was new to me. Pass.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 12:21 PM

Maybe if they had offered the king and his beauty by Schreiner at a decent discount I would’ve bought it. Maybe “Since all people are children of the serpent by nature” that’s why we didn’t get a discount on this one...😂😂😂 Yep, that’s a quote from the book.  I wanted to analyze it more, but I’ll wait for a good sale.

DAL

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 12:29 PM

Thousand thanks! My wishlist is now shorter! 

But no time to read yet Embarrassed

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 1:23 PM

If anyone is an MP Seminar fan, this book is part of the 25% off.  Morris recommended it highly and I don't think I've seen it on sale before... could have missed it though

https://www.logos.com/product/392/the-training-of-the-twelve 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 1:31 PM

DAL:

Maybe if they had offered the king and his beauty by Schreiner at a decent discount I would’ve bought it. Maybe “Since all people are children of the serpent by nature” that’s why we didn’t get a discount on this one...😂😂😂 Yep, that’s a quote from the book.  I wanted to analyze it more, but I’ll wait for a good sale.

DAL

I put your quote in bold; see pericope

The Promise for New Generations

The Genesis narrative continues to focus on the promise of children, though the entirety of the covenant made with Abraham is confirmed to Isaac: offspring, land, and universal blessing (26:3–4). The offspring of the woman (Isaac) was now one man against the world, and the question is whether godly children would survive in a world where the offspring of the serpent desired to annihilate them. The first challenge for Isaac was to find a wife who worshiped the Lord, for if Isaac married a woman who turned his heart and the heart of his children away from the Lord, the promise of future salvation through Abraham’s children would be nullified. Hence, Gen. 24 recounts the narrative of how Abraham’s servant found a wife (Rebekah) from Abraham’s relatives instead of from the Canaanites. Thereby the purity of the line of promise was preserved. Nevertheless, the integrity of the family was compromised when Isaac, like Abraham, lied about whether Rebekah was his wife so that she was taken into Abimelech’s harem (26:7). The Lord showed favor to Isaac just as he did to Abraham, for when Abimelech realized that Rebekah was married to Isaac, God threatened anyone who would violate their union with death (26:8–11). The promise was also endangered because Rebekah, like Sarah, was barren. But the Lord, in response to Isaac’s prayer, granted Rebekah children (25:21). The promised offspring survived only by the intervention of God, underlining the truth that the Lord graciously fulfills what he has pledged.

Nor was the fulfillment of the promise dependent merely on Isaac and Rebekah producing children. For the children of Isaac and Rebekah were not necessarily the offspring of the woman merely because they were their physical children. Esau and Jacob were the twin children of Isaac and Rebekah, and one would expect that the promise would be transmitted through the older son (Esau). The Lord prophesied, however, that the older son would serve the younger (25:23). Paul, in commenting on the choice of Jacob, highlights God’s election (Rom. 9:11–13). The choice of Jacob could not be ascribed to Jacob’s virtue or moral heroism; rather, it finds its roots in the grace and election of God. Jacob’s deception and manipulation verify his moral impoverishment, confirming Paul’s reading. Since all people are children of the serpent by nature, the promise of victory over the serpent will become a reality only by virtue of God’s mercy. Esau’s casual disregard for his birthright demonstrated that he was not a son of the promise (Gen. 25:29–34), for it is almost inconceivable that he would give it up for the sake of one lunch (Heb. 12:16). The mystery of God’s sovereignty in choosing Jacob is relayed in the story of the blessing, for Rebekah and Jacob shamefully conspired together so that Jacob, rather than Esau, would receive the blessing from Isaac (27:1–40). Despite (not because of!) their machinations, the Lord granted the blessing to Jacob rather than Esau.

Immediately, God’s promise was in peril, for Esau was enraged and vowed to kill Jacob (27:41). But as the people of God flee from Satan into the wilderness (Rev. 12:14), so Jacob fled from Esau and traveled to his relatives in Haran (Gen. 27:42–46). Jacob’s life was preserved, and unlike Esau, he did not intermarry with Hittite women who worshiped false gods (27:46). Esau’s murderous intentions became the means by which Jacob would marry women who were devoted to the Lord, so that the parents of the children to come were devoted to Yahweh. As Jacob traveled to Haran to escape from Esau, the Lord met him at Bethel and confirmed to him the promise of Abraham: land, offspring, and universal blessing (28:13–15).120 As Rolf Rendtorff says, “When Jacob has experienced the most devastating bankruptcy, when all seems lost and blessing seems to have turned to a curse, God adds his blessing to him.”121 There is no need to linger over the details of Jacob’s marriages to Leah and to Rachel. The promise was no longer limited to just one son; all twelve of Jacob’s sons were recipients of the promise. Hence, the promise of many offspring began to be fulfilled as Jacob’s children multiplied.

Threats to the preservation of Jacob’s children continued. Jacob left Laban without notice because the tension and the strife between them were constant. When Laban discovered that Jacob had left and overtook Jacob, he intended to inflict harm upon Jacob and his family (chap. 31). God warned Laban, however, to refrain from injuring Jacob, implying that if Laban did so, he would be severely punished (31:2429). Jacob’s fears were not ended, however, for immediately after he left Laban, reports arrived that Esau was riding to meet him with four hundred men (32:6–7). Naturally, Jacob was afraid, for the last thing he had heard from Esau was that his brother wanted to kill him, and hence he prayed earnestly to the Lord for deliverance (32:11). Jacob’s wrestling with God and prevailing is a significant moment in his life, for his name is changed to “Israel” (32:24–30). As Dempster says, this means that he “will be God’s conquering warrior in the earth.”122 Such a name change verifies that victory over the serpent will come through the one who is named “Israel.” And Jacob’s prayer for protection was answered, for Esau did not come for war but to renew their friendship (chap. 33).

Another threat to the promise loomed on the horizon. Shechem the son of Hamor from the Shechemites was smitten with Dinah and raped her, prevailing upon his father to work out an arrangement by which he could marry her (34:1–4). Why is this rather strange story included? If the Israelites intermarried with the Shechemites, the children of Jacob would lose their purity because of uniting with people who worshiped other gods. Hence, the children of the serpent would triumph over and overwhelm the children of the woman. Ironically, the means by which Israel was protected from intermarriage involved subterfuge and murder, for Jacob’s sons persuaded all the Shechemite males to submit to circumcision before they would agree to intermarry (chap. 34). After the surgery Simeon and Levi dishonorably murdered the Shechemites while they were sore (34:25–26), and the remaining brothers gleefully looted their possessions (34:27–29). Simeon and Levi were punished for their cruelty, and as a result they were scattered among the twelve tribes and were not given a specific portion of land as an inheritance (49:5–7). Even though the narrator did not comment immediately in Gen. 34 on the actions of Simeon and Levi, it is clear that he saw these deeds as evil. Nonetheless, the Lord’s purposes were realized through their malfeasance, for the Israelites were prevented from intermarrying with the Shechemites.

Another danger surfaced, however, because of the evil perpetrated by Simeon and Levi. Now the family of Jacob (and the realization of the promise of the kingdom) faced the danger of attack from the Canaanites and Perizzites, who would retaliate for Israel’s slaughter (34:30). The only explanation for Israel’s preservation was divine intervention, for “a terror from God fell upon the cities that were around them, so that they did not pursue the sons of Jacob” (35:5). The Lord then appeared to Jacob and confirmed the promise of Abraham to him again, pledging offspring, land, and blessings for all peoples (35:9–13). The stories of the preservation of Jacob and his children drive home one of the main themes of the narrative: the preservation of Jacob’s offspring is not due to human ingenuity or even human virtue. Only God’s covenant promise can explain why this small family escaped disaster after disaster and was preserved intact.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 2:44 PM

Thanks Matillo! What are your thoughts on The King and His Beauty?

DAL

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 21 2020 8:42 PM

DAL:

Thanks Matillo! What are your thoughts on The King and His Beauty?

DAL

I really like what I’ve read thus far. He gives great summaries of the books of the Bible in plain simple language while trying to show how they relate to the kingdom of God. Some theologies are a chore to read but this one I can sit down and read without getting bogged down. I have in no way read this thing entirely because it is huge but the parts I have seen I liked. Hoping to tackle Samuel in the next few months and this one is on the list for review :) 

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JohnB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 11:48 AM

Paul Caneparo:
Nothing in my priority wishlist. Only stuff in my low priority/buy when 50% off or more lists.

Why did I not think of that type of split! Thanks Paul.

Still got two off my lists though  Thanks FL

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Paul Caneparo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 12:32 PM

JohnB:

Paul Caneparo:
Nothing in my priority wishlist. Only stuff in my low priority/buy when 50% off or more lists.

Why did I not think of that type of split! Thanks Paul.

Still got two off my lists though  Thanks FL

In fact I have 4 "wishlists":

1. Books I really want to buy when budget allows - ideally with some discount.

2. Commentaries I'm interested in when seriously cheap

3. Non-commentaries I'm interested in when seriously cheap

4. Books I already own in other formats and so will only buy if seriously cheap

The first list only has 4 books in it now. You'd think it would be easy to buy them, but Logos have had some seriously good offers this year. 2 of the books in particular are quite pricey and I'll wait for birthday coupon before buying unless they go on sale before.

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 1:06 PM

There are several books on sale that are in the Connect list of 3 free books a month category. I have to double check to make sure I don't pay for anything I can get for free. I'll never live long enough to get them all though.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 2:56 PM

Could Veli, John and Paul (or anyone else!) share their recommendations that have turned up in the sale?

I could learn a thing or two!

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 5:19 PM

 In addition to the one I posted earlier, I also got this.  Don’t really have any DSS stuff

https://www.logos.com/product/8933/dead-sea-scrolls-bible 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 6:45 PM

Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long!

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 6:53 PM

Mattillo:

 In addition to the one I posted earlier, I also got this.  Don’t really have any DSS stuff

https://www.logos.com/product/8933/dead-sea-scrolls-bible 

Good Suggestion on the DSS Bible. I do not yet have this one so it is a good pick up for me. Thanks!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 6:58 PM

Lee:

Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long!

Here are some great and practical expository sermons: https://www.logos.com/product/7221/ian-r-k-paisley-collection

It was $22 for me since I already owned one in the collection.

DAL

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 7:04 PM

I narrowed the list down to unowned and savings so the best Memorial Day deals pop up first: https://www.logos.com/search?filters=producttype-memorialday2020_Product%20Type&sortBy=Savings&limit=60&page=1&ownership=unowned&geographicAvailability=availableToMe

It helped me come across the set I just purchased and others I’m considering.  You can always adjust the filter to however you want it 👍😁👌

DAL

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 22 2020 7:38 PM

I have a few of Jacob Neusner's books, but I thought this would be a good time to pick some individual titles or a small set. I can't afford the entire collection. Any must-haves or suggestions?

https://www.logos.com/search?filters=author-7210_Author&limit=60&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=all&sortBy=PriceLow

This is the set I was considering: https://www.logos.com/product/51511/christianity-judaism-and-other-greco-roman-cults

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2020 5:33 AM

Lee:

Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long!

I don't really want to tempt anyone, but since you ask:

https://www.logos.com/product/24995/college-press-resurrection-collection
https://www.logos.com/product/144570/old-earth-or-evolutionary-creation-discussing-origins-with-reasons-to-believe-and-biologos
https://www.logos.com/product/26969/the-creeds-of-christendom
https://www.logos.com/product/4248/summa-theologica
https://www.logos.com/product/54357/the-bible-knowledge-background-commentary-new-testament
https://www.logos.com/product/168634/martyn-lloyd-jones-expositions
https://www.logos.com/product/154/the-works-of-josephus
https://www.logos.com/product/50054/select-works-of-daniel-i-block
https://www.logos.com/product/55228/encyclopaedia-britannica-collection
https://www.logos.com/product/41714/erasing-hell-what-god-said-about-eternity-and-the-things-we-made-up
https://www.logos.com/product/23759/jesus-the-final-days
https://www.logos.com/product/5206/summa-contra-gentiles
https://www.logos.com/product/3846/ariel-ministries-messianic-collection
https://www.logos.com/product/4250/hugh-ross-reasons-to-believe-collection
https://www.logos.com/product/50144/select-works-of-william-lane-craig
https://www.logos.com/product/150111/ff-bruce-collection


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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2020 8:18 AM

Jan Krohn:

Lee:

Thanks. Keep those recommendations coming. The sale won't last long!

I don't really want to tempt anyone, but since you ask:

https://www.logos.com/product/144570/old-earth-or-evolutionary-creation-discussing-origins-with-reasons-to-believe-and-biologos

https://www.logos.com/product/50144/select-works-of-william-lane-craig

Jan, thank you, these two look quite interesting to me. Incidentally, William Lane Craig apparently visited our family apartment in the mid/late 70s whilst my dad was serving as a missionary to Germany. I think it was when we lived in Munich. It may have had something to do with Pannenberg and the theological dept there at the university. I was just a teen back then.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2020 8:33 AM

It would be nice if we could have the ability to show 100 items per page instead of 60.  When you have to go through 198 pages of items on sale at 60 per page, that’s discouraging.  I’m on page 54 and already tired of going through the items on sale.  At least 100 per page would make it a little bit faster to go through the sale.

DAL

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