Logos 9 - Arrival Time?

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Steve Shelton | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2020 7:01 AM

Any idea as to when Logos 9 might arrive?

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 7:19 AM

Probably one day after the cutoff for my big purchases in 8 to count as credit for 9 😉

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 7:33 AM

Probably this Fall sometime. Here are the release dates since Logos 4:

Logos 4.0 SR-3 -- Tue, Nov 3 2009

Logos 5.0 SR-2 -- Thursday, November 1, 2012

Logos 6.0 -- Monday, October 27, 2014

Logos 7.0 -- Monday, August 22, 2016

Logos 8.0 -- Monday, October 29, 2018

Note that Logos 7 was an early bird--the rest are in the late October-early November range. There are no guarantees, however.

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 7:46 AM

👍 Thanks for looking that up, though like you said, it’s no guara tee

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 8:11 AM

David Wanat:
Probably one day after the cutoff for my big purchases in 8 to count as credit for 9

Ha.

I personally don't care ... I'm still on W7.  But if FL were trying to expand its academic footprint, a late start-over (faculty/students with L9) would be counter-productive. Especially, with FL's 80% development policy.

Then, there's revenue considerations in a Covid environment. Employee families like to eat. One could speculate Proclaim product lines might be doing well; maybe some low-end losses. Book sales, likely suffering the summer blues. And management-lines limping along.  Then, there's the under-marketed sales .... 'here's some good deals ... buy if you just have to'.

OTOH, there's the traditional clue ... missing star people, who get enlisted to try to rescue development designs. And the contra clue, no subject-specific collection sale yet.

I'd bet (no money) late August, early Sept. 

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mark preston | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 8:56 AM

Last time a salesman "hustled" me to buy a great onetime only deal; I said I was waiting for logos9 before I made any more big purchases and he said that it might be delayed because of the covid affair; however he probably would say something like that wouldn't he! 

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 9:08 AM

Denise:

David Wanat:
Probably one day after the cutoff for my big purchases in 8 to count as credit for 9

Ha.

I personally don't care ... I'm still on W7.  But if FL were trying to expand its academic footprint, a late start-over (faculty/students with L9) would be counter-productive. Especially, with FL's 80% development policy.

Then, there's revenue considerations in a Covid environment. Employee families like to eat. One could speculate Proclaim product lines might be doing well; maybe some low-end losses. Book sales, likely suffering the summer blues. And management-lines limping along.  Then, there's the under-marketed sales .... 'here's some good deals ... buy if you just have to'.

OTOH, there's the traditional clue ... missing star people, who get enlisted to try to rescue development designs. And the contra clue, no subject-specific collection sale yet.

I'd bet (no money) late August, early Sept. 

Well, I was thinking of when I made a late upgrade to 7, they gave me credit when 8 came out due to the recent nature of my purchase. (Looks like it was 8/2/18, and I purchased 8 on 10/29/18 with a large credit)

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 10:31 AM

mark preston:
he said that it might be delayed because of the covid affair

'Might'. That's a clear semantic indication the speaker was deflecting from non-implied sub-surface knowledge markers. (Practicing to be a scholar.) Big Smile

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2020 11:16 AM

Denise:

mark preston:
he said that it might be delayed because of the covid affair

'Might'. That's a clear semantic indication the speaker was deflecting from non-implied sub-surface knowledge markers. (Practicing to be a scholar.) Big Smile

What I call a definite maybe.

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Batman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 14 2020 12:19 AM

HA! Now that sounds like my "luck". 

David Wanat:

Probably one day after the cutoff for my big purchases in 8 to count as credit for 9 😉

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Batman | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 14 2020 12:33 AM

I hate to say this, but, then again, no I dont.
When I first learned of Logos it was 3. I'm not wealthy. I was not wealthy then. Actually, I was less than a year from unemployment, of the devestating type, and making below poverty level income. I had been purchasing digital Bibles for several years, and ran into Logos and Bible Works. I asked if logos would be doing an upgrade soon. I was told, pretty much a skirt-around the truth type of response. Basically, he had no idea of there being an upcoming upgrade, and if there was, I would never have to worry because Logos would always be compatible. 
Well, while that may be kinda somewhat true, it's far from true, at the same time. Within 3 or 4 months, L-4 came out. And, there was no "recent upgrade discounts" then. Or, if there were, they had no interest in divulging that information. 
So, yes. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that they would say something like that. 

Oh, and for the record: not only did they have knowledge of 4 coming soon, they were already in the works for L6 at that time! (which shocked the devil's future home out of me, btw). Hmmm. that may mean they are already working on L-11 or 12 now. 

mark preston:

Last time a salesman "hustled" me to buy a great onetime only deal; I said I was waiting for logos9 before I made any more big purchases and he said that it might be delayed because of the covid affair; however he probably would say something like that wouldn't he! 

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Batman:
Oh, and for the record: not only did they have knowledge of 4 coming soon, they were already in the works for L6 at that time!

If I take a very generous interpretation of your statement (e.g., some departments or individuals in Faithlife were planning or building data sets that eventually shipped in a Logos 6 base package, or working on acquiring resources that took 5+ years to go through contract negotiations) then this might possibly be true. (But I doubt it.)

If I take a strict interpretation (we were coding Logos 6 features or, prior to Logos 4 we were building a roadmap for Logos 6 that wouldn't ship for another five years) then there's absolutely no truth to this.

Batman:
Hmmm. that may mean they are already working on L-11 or 12 now. 

Yeah no.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 14 2020 5:38 PM

Thank you Bradley. I had written and removed a similar post but without the absolute knowledge you have. I only had improbability,

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Josh Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 14 2020 5:40 PM

If finances are an issue...don’t buy Logos “number next“ or more resources 🤷‍♂️

Christians have been studying The Bible for thousands of years without Logos, and they’re not any less for it.

I’ve been saving for months anticipating L9, because I believe in the product and The people behind it, But don’t let fomo syndrome dictate your checkbook 

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 15 2020 2:53 AM

re: fomo

I had to look this acronym up on the net.  I had fear of missing out on what U meant.  Me: I'm plumping for L10.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 15 2020 5:46 AM

Steve Shelton:

Any idea as to when Logos 9 might arrive?

If I were to post, "I'm guessing tomorrow!" on a daily basis, eventually I'd probably be right. Today is a Saturday, so I'd probably be wrong if I posted that today.

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Steve Shelton:

Any idea as to when Logos 9 might arrive?

If I were to post, "I'm guessing tomorrow!" on a daily basis

If I were to tell you, "it will ship at noon on one weekday in the following week but the launch will be a surprise to you" ... does that mean the launch will never occur at all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unexpected_hanging_paradox#Description

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 15 2020 9:29 AM

Josh Moore:

If finances are an issue...don’t buy Logos “number next“ or more resources 🤷‍♂️

Christians have been studying The Bible for thousands of years without Logos, and they’re not any less for it.



What is this blasphemy? Wink

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 15 2020 9:57 AM

David Wanat:
What is this blasphemy? 

No, only irreversable logic. Without Logos, you're not the less for it, but with Logos, you are taken to the 'next level' (diviners' promises in Logos Marketing). Our favorite curmudgeon on the forum (George) called this 'modern gnosticism'.

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 15 2020 11:38 AM

Denise:

David Wanat:
What is this blasphemy? 

No, only irreversable logic. Without Logos, you're not the less for it, but with Logos, you are taken to the 'next level' (diviners' promises in Logos Marketing). Our favorite curmudgeon on the forum (George) called this 'modern gnosticism'.

I'm being facetious here Wink

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