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Zacharias Shoukry | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 12 2020 11:22 PM

Hey,

I've just downloaded the Perseus Library. Is there a way to search a Greek lemma across all books contained in this library?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 11:29 PM

Hey Zacharias,

welcome to the forums!

Zacharias Shoukry:
I've just downloaded the Perseus Library. Is there a way to search a Greek lemma across all books contained in this library?

Yes, if you restrict the search to an ad-hoc collection of Perseus works.

Lemma search is done via morph-search: 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 12 2020 11:34 PM

There is also the option to switch to the Perseus website search

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Zacharias Shoukry | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 1:19 AM

thanks!
If I search for example for the verb "ζῳοποιέω", there are no results even though I know there has to be a result. Is Logos only searching in already downloaded material? And if so, how can I say to Logos that it should download all Perseus Documents (obviously it hasn't)?

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Zacharias Shoukry | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 1:20 AM

this is a good button, but it only leads to the Greek Word Study Tool of the website (with LSJ and other Dictionaries) and not to a leamm search, right?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 1:52 AM

Zacharias Shoukry:
Is Logos only searching in already downloaded material?

It should search cloud-based resources as well - and return results in a separate section of the Search panel

Zacharias Shoukry:
And if so, how can I say to Logos that it should download all Perseus Documents (obviously it hasn't)?

You can select them all in the Library and download them from there - see https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025106492-Select-Which-Library-Resources-to-Download for details.

Zacharias Shoukry:
If I search for example for the verb "ζῳοποιέω", there are no results even though I know there has to be a result

I only find one result in Perseus for that word. 

Have you tried a more common word such as λόγος as suggested by Mick. If so, what results do you get from that?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 2:02 AM

Zacharias Shoukry:
If I search for example for the verb "ζῳοποιέω", there are no results even though I know there has to be a result.

I have no hit for this lemma - where is the potential result (there could be a mis-tagged or not tagged resource)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 2:52 AM

NB.Mick:
I have no hit for this lemma

I have one hit as shown below

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 3:24 AM

Ah, thanks Graham. I had picked the wrong lemma of the two, with the first omega having a iota subscript (like the one given). Now I see the same.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2020 11:14 AM

Zacharias Shoukry:
Is there a way to search a Greek lemma across all books contained in this library?

If you're lazy like me, and Logos isn't your primary Bible software, I find the section "Textual Searches" in Bible Word Studies to be really good. You didn't ask, but for info, it includes (greek) searches (and occurance counts) for:

- LXX

- New Testament (of course)

- Apostolic Fathers

- NT Apocrypha (true!)

- Pseudepigrapha

- Josephus

- Philo

- Greek Classics (Perseus)

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Zacharias Shoukry | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 15 2020 1:40 AM

The result should be Lucian, Verae Historiae 1,22. And once it worked, but I cannot reproduce it. So I wonder if there is anything wrong with it. I find a lot of results with common words but I have to verify if it functions properly and that is easier to show with rarely used words

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 15 2020 2:48 AM

Zacharias Shoukry:
The result should be Lucian, Verae Historiae 1,22. And once it worked, but I cannot reproduce it. So I wonder if there is anything wrong with

Looking it up, it seems that some words in this resource are not fully tagged (right-click on ζῳοποιοῦσιν in this sentence will show no lemma and no morph information) - noting that Perseus-tagging was done by some algorithm rather than by hand.

With no lemma-tagging, the search can't find this result. 

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