Please return the Wiki and Forum links to the app menu

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Kiyah | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 28 2020 6:20 AM

In previous versions of Logos there were links in the app menu to the Forums and the Wiki (see below). With Logos 9 those links are gone. Can they please be added back? I use them all the time.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 6:57 AM

Hi

This is NOT in line with Faithlife policy of making things more challenging and never easier for basic users.

Just joshin...bless you.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 11:46 AM

Good call Kiyah ... now practice https://feedback.faithlife.com/ which should also be on the menu or in prebuilt shortcuts

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 7:31 PM

Kiyah:
Can they please be added back?

And when they get added back, the forums one can be "View Faithlife forums". Smile

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 8:39 PM

SineNomine:
And when they get added back, the forums one can be "View Faithlife forums". Smile

Are you suggesting they have a Faithlife forum?

Actually it seems that it is complicated: https://community.logos.com/forums/

The domain is logos.com, the banner has an image said Faithlife forum, and the text below said Logos forum.

I wish they will retire the Logos forum and has a Faithlife forum. This is barely useable on mobile.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 8:47 PM

Kolen Cheung:
I wish they will retire the Logos forum and has a Faithlife forum.

If we launched new forums on a new platform, would you be willing to leave the current forums behind as a read-only archive? Or would it be essential that we move everything over to the new platform?

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 9:01 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Kolen Cheung:
I wish they will retire the Logos forum and has a Faithlife forum.

If we launched new forums on a new platform, would you be willing to leave the current forums behind as a read-only archive? Or would it be essential that we move everything over to the new platform?

I personally would be satisfied with read-only archive. But I don't know how much more people out there would want them to be migrated. I tend to think that technically it is doable to migrate the content too.

The mobile experience I was talking about is, at least on iPhone Safari, the forum isn't a "responsive design" that scale with the smaller screen. So the text is extraordinarily small and typing there is very difficult—if you zoom in you need to manually touch it to move it left and right.

Also, the text editor here is doing weird thing on iOS. e.g. try type something wrong and back space and the OS doesn't recognize the word. Say you type "these", backspace 3 steps to "th", type "ose". Then the auto-correction does not recognize you are typing "those", and would think "ose" is some wrong word and try to auto correct that. And for unknown reason it is easy to have hit a space and get double space.

I also imagine it would be a better experience to replace the Logos forum by the Faithlife social network. But I could be wrong.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 9:23 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

Kolen Cheung:
I wish they will retire the Logos forum and has a Faithlife forum.

If we launched new forums on a new platform, would you be willing to leave the current forums behind as a read-only archive? Or would it be essential that we move everything over to the new platform?

Yes for read-only forum archive. If practical, populating new Faithlife forum with threads that had replies in the last month would be appreciated.

Also thought about a new wiki.faithlife.com with the old wiki.logos.com also becoming read-only (along with read-only forum archive).

Kolen Cheung:
I also imagine it would be a better experience to replace the Logos forum by the Faithlife social network. But I could be wrong.

Having participated in many Logos forum and Faithlife discussions, like Logos forum:

  • Easier to insert image(s)
  • Easier to quote user(s)
  • Quicker to see recent replies

Keep Smiling Smile

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 28 2020 9:52 PM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
Or would it be essential that we move everything over to the new platform?
No - an archive is sufficient.

I promise that old-timers will be as curmudgeonly about it as we were at leaving the boards, but it is time for an upgrade.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 3:03 AM

I’m content with the existing forum, but if we did move, I’d prefer read-only at the existing URL rather than moving everything (as I rely on Google search to find old threads with info I’m looking for).

Just please don’t move us to Faithlife groups. It’s too inconvenient to read, post, and search there.

Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 3:19 AM

PetahChristian:

I’m content with the existing forum, but if we did move, I’d prefer read-only at the existing URL rather than moving everything (as I rely on Google search to find old threads with info I’m looking for).

Just please don’t move us to Faithlife groups. It’s too inconvenient to read, post, and search there.

Ditto to all of that. Yes

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 5:08 AM

PetahChristian:
Just please don’t move us to Faithlife groups. It’s too inconvenient to read, post, and search there.

id suggest them to at least share the same backend. With the forum optionally has another front end, basically pulling the forum content in a more forum like form. The reason for this is people who like the Faithlife social network more can use it that way. And for some conversation or quick reply it might be easier way.

sort of like having the same Logos but multiple ways to access it, desktop, web, mobile. Same forum with 2 ways to access it, one on the Faithlife social network, one from a forum like site making for example searching and indexing (by web crawlers such as your friend google) easier.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 7:15 AM

PetahChristian:
Just please don’t move us to Faithlife groups. It’s too inconvenient to read, post, and search there.

If the forums get moved to Faithlife groups, I'm gone.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 7:44 AM

MJ. Smith:

Phil Gons (Faithlife):
Or would it be essential that we move everything over to the new platform?
No - an archive is sufficient.

I promise that old-timers will be as curmudgeonly about it as we were at leaving the boards, but it is time for an upgrade.

I grudgingly left the usenet group behind, and have frequently pointed out in ancient posts some of the most glaring problems with this particular platform.  So many extant forum softwares out there handle things more comfortably.  But I've also given up the curmudgeon lifestyle of always managing to complain.

I loved and used the newsgroups.

I love and use the forums.

I'll love and use whatever.  Probably.

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 7:52 AM

Don't waste time and effort on migrating forum content. I'm sure everyone will be happier if you spend that effort on Logos features instead. :-)

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 8:13 PM

Jan Krohn:
I'm sure everyone will be happier if you spend that effort on Logos features instead. :-)

So true. I'm sure there's some that will complain. But if this question is asked they will almost always choose Logos (like spend more time on tagging, etc.)

I do have one request, I rely on the email to stay up-to-date in forum threads. But it doesn't have an option to adjust when it sends them to me. It is common in other platforms that they can send a summary email once per day/week. It will be much easier to catch up without the constant distraction.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 11:06 PM

Getting back on track

Kiyah:
In previous versions of Logos there were links in the app menu to the Forums and the Wiki (see below). With Logos 9 those links are gone. Can they please be added back?

 Logos v8 shows

I agree that Forums and Wiki should be put back, together with the new Feedback site. And I would like Faithlife to respond directly in this thread.

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Kolen Cheung | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 29 2020 11:53 PM

Dave Hooton:
Getting back on track

I'm guessing from their response it might be a deliberate choice to leave it out. They want to have a new wiki and forum and after that they will put the links there.

But I might be overthinking about that.

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Dave Hooton:
I agree that Forums and Wiki should be put back, together with the new Feedback site. And I would like Faithlife to respond directly in this thread.

We've seen this thread and are deciding if and when to add those options back.

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 30 2020 4:27 PM

I read this and my family is wondering why I just fell out of my chair and onto the floor - in shock.

Bless you all.

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