Page 1 of 1 (6 items)
This post has 5 Replies | 2 Followers

Posts 22
Richard Ogg | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Oct 31 2020 6:15 PM

I saw another post where someone was requesting the Bible Book Explorer not be slanted to the Protestant view. I'm on the opposite side - I'd like to know how to restrict it to the 66 books that we recognize. Is there a setting or configuration someplace???

Posts 9433
Forum MVP
Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 31 2020 6:26 PM

Sure thing. Open the facet menu (the two small right facing arrows on the upper left next to 'All'). Go to Corpus and choose Protestant.

Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

Bridgeport, CT USA

Posts 22
Richard Ogg | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 8:13 AM

Sure thing. Open the facet menu (the two small right facing arrows on the upper left next to 'All'). Go to Corpus and choose Protestant.

Thanks, Mark. I knew there was something simple to be found. But as a Wordsearch refugee I'm still wandering a bit, trying to figure out how many things work. Although it doesn't appear to work for all the views - in Intertext I still see everything.....

Posts 9433
Forum MVP
Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 11:13 AM

Richard Ogg:
in Intertext I still see everything.....

The reason for this might not be seen if you are looking at Citations or Quotations. However, if you look at Allusions, Echos, or All some of these lead to Apocryphal books. So they are needed to track these.

Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

Bridgeport, CT USA

Posts 4845
SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 1 2020 11:21 AM

Richard Ogg:

Although it doesn't appear to work for all the views - in Intertext I still see everything.....

Intertext appears to ignore both the Corpus and the Genre facets, although it responds to all of the others. That would appear to be a BUG.

“I want you to know how the people should behave in the house of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” - 1 Timothy 3:15 (EOB:NT).

Posts 813
LogosEmployee
Eli Evans (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 2 2020 11:13 AM

Thanks for the report! I tested it out a little, and it seems like it's working as designed with regard to Corpus. From the About: 

The books selected for the visualization are any books in the current filter set that are either source or target (either OT or NT) for an intertextual relationship. So, if you filter down to New Testament, don't be surprised to see OT books acting as source material in the visualization.

 

Since some intertext relations have one foot in the 66-book filter set (and one foot outside), they are included. Think of the filter set asking the question, "What are ALL the intertextualities involved one way or another with Filter Set?"

I can see why that would be counter-intuitive. Allow me to explain how I got there by evaluating other possible approaches:

(A) Imagine a matching rule that would include only those intertext relations where both ends, source and target, lie within the filter set. This would do what you're expecting for the 66-book case and other large filter sets. However, it would show zero results if you picked, say, "Minor Prophets" (because all targets lie in the NT, outside the filter set), or "New Testament" (because all sources lie in the OT).

(B) Imagine a view setting that post-processes the results: There is a "strict" / "loose" view toggle somewhere inside the view that toggles between both-sides and one-side matching rules. "Strict" would cause zero results often, but at least you'd be in control.

(C) Alternately, I can imagine a rule that would eliminate any intertext relation that doesn't have both feet inside the set if and only if the filter set includes both OT and NT books. (That would correct for the Minor Prophets/New Testament cases.) This might lead to some surprising results as well, because the rule for what gets included and what gets excluded is now more complex. If you choose "Gospels" you'd see connections to Catholic OT books, but if you choose "66 Books" you wouldn't. Also counter-intuitive.

(D) Alternately, a modification of C: Try both matching rules, and if both sets of results are non-zero, show the smaller one, on the theory that it matches the filter set better. If one is zero, show the non-zero one, on the theory that something is better than nothing. There may be some marginal cases where it would produce different results than C, but I can't think of them right now.

(E) I considered making Corpus a top-level setting on the interactive (that is, in the interactive toolbar rather than a filter facet) with the effect of permanently limiting all the data to those bounds before we even get to filtering. This would be a new feature request worth adding to https://feedback.faithlife.com. 

(NOTE: Some of this reasoning might change if we had NT-NT or OT-OT relations.)

As far as I can tell, it's also working as designed with respect to Genre as well.

As always, I'm happy to be wrong!

Page 1 of 1 (6 items) | RSS