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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 19 2020 7:06 AM

Now that Logos has acquired Wordsearch, I am afraid of what happens to my ability to use Instaverse. Having used it now for many many years, it will really impact my work flow when I upgrade computers. To make it work with all the various translations - I have to first install the latest version of WordSearch - and update the library to include all the translations I have purchased - and THEN I can install Instaverse and get is working with Word. If I can not reinstall WordSearch and get it authorized - no more Instaverse. WHY has no one ever created a similar program to work with Logos????  We have asked - many times - many posts. 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 7:43 AM

That's an interesting functionality.

For anyone curious, the use-pattern in the link below is interesting, for WS users at the time (not sure WHAT happened to Windows 8!):

https://www.shouldiremoveit.com/InstaVerse-53506-program.aspx 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 9:25 AM

Hugh DeLong:
If I can not reinstall WordSearch and get it authorized - no more Instaverse. WHY has no one ever created a similar program to work with Logos????  We have asked - many times - many posts. 

Hi Hugh

I had a look at the internet but didn't really get a picture of how this program worked.

Does it pop up with the verse if you hover over a bible reference in...

  • a pages or word document
  • a pdf
  • a kindle book
  • an excel or numbers sheet
  • rtf documnet

tootle pip

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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 11:32 AM

Mike - I use it connection with Word - and in Word if you hover over a reference, it does popup (open) a small new window with the text displayed. However, I have never found that particularly useful for my purpose. Rather, when writing it really has proven almost indispensable. You type in the reference, leave the cursor at the end of the reference, press your hotkey (which you have chosen and setup), and it automatically inserts the text of the verse into your document - using whatever formatting that you are currently using. It is so much quicker than trying to switch windows, highlight, cut, switch windows back, paste...   and whatever translations you have (had?) in Wordsearch are available. 

In addition, you can specify lots of 'paste' options: reference style (bold, italics, before the text, after the text, paragraph style or each verse on its own line, etc.) 

It just seems to me like someone with computer coding experience could replicate this but use Logos as the source for the references. Why Wordsearch quite working on it is beyond me - perhaps it had achieved its purpose so well they didn't want to ruin it by making it try to do too many other things! 

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Kenneth Neighoff | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 19 2020 11:35 AM

Bible Works has(d) a similar function.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2020 12:15 AM

Hugh DeLong:
ou type in the reference, leave the cursor at the end of the reference, press your hotkey (which you have chosen and setup), and it automatically inserts the text of the verse into your document - using whatever formatting that you are currently using.

Arghh

I remember fondly...

Hugh DeLong:
Why Wordsearch quite working on it is beyond me

Probably for the same reason that Faithlife did?

We haven't had a clamour for its return for some years.

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2020 12:26 AM

Have you looked at Smart Tags (aka Actions) ?

https://wiki.logos.com/Smart_Tags 

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 25 2020 9:41 PM

For websites, Logos has Faithlife RefTagger, but it has to be enabled by the web developer.

Nathan Parker

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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 2:40 AM

Yes - I have used both the smarttags and re RefTagger - but nothing has the simplicity, ease, and quickness as does Instaverse. 

At least Wordsearch website (for know) is functioning and I was able to install Wordsearch and thus get INstaverse to work on my new computer. I am just fearful that a year from now that will be shutdown and then it won't install on any new computer systems I get. 

My guess is that most people never tried it so they do not know what they are missing :-) Thus, there is no 'big clammor' for it. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 3:08 AM

Hugh DeLong:
My guess is that most people never tried it so they do not know what they are missing :-) Thus, there is no 'big clammor' for it. 

Or, like myself, it does not meet an actual need. I can see how it would be useful for many people but that does not include myself.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 3:31 AM

Mike Binks:

I remember fondly...

Hugh DeLong:
Why Wordsearch quite working on it is beyond me

Probably for the same reason that Faithlife did?

We haven't had a clamour for its return for some years.

I don't understand, Mike. Are you saying that "replace with passage" doesn't work? Because it works fine for me.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 4:23 AM

Livi

Thank you for chipping in.

For me, you are (almost) right!

'Replace with Passage' is indeed working from the Services menu.

What is not working (for me) is the Keyboard Shortcut which is set to Cmd+Shift+E.

Have you any idea why this might be?

If we can get this solved perhaps it might go some way to comforting Hugh in his loss!

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 4:32 AM

Mike Binks:
What is not working (for me) is the Keyboard Shortcut which is set to Cmd+Shift+E

I changed the shortcut years ago--CMD+SHIFT+E conflicted with something for me. Can't remember what now!

I use CTRL+OPT+CMD+/

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 4:35 AM
Mike Binks:
What is not working (for me) is the Keyboard Shortcut which is set to Cmd+Shift+E.
I changed back to SHIFT+CMD+E and tested--it works in Textedit but not in Pages--there's some sort of conflict there.
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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 4:50 AM

Levi Durfey:
I use CTRL+OPT+CMD+/

So do I (as of just now) and you are right.

Thank you again. I only use the facility sparingly but when I need it it does come in handy.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 4:54 AM

Hugh DeLong:
Yes - I have used both the smarttags and re RefTagger - but nothing has the simplicity, ease, and quickness as does Instaverse. 

You may well be right Hugh but perhaps changing the Keyboard shortcut to Cmd+Option+Ctl+E for 'Replace with Passage' in the Services menu as Livi has suggested might help a little.

tootle pip

Mike

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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 5:55 AM

OK - I reinstalled Office 365, this time with the 32bit version. In the  add-ins window, it shows Logos Bible Software (L4SmrTg.dll) as an active application.

So - walk me thru using this (or point me to a URL)...  :-)   Old dog trying to learn new tricks and see if you all have been any comfort to me  :-)

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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 6:03 AM

When I right-click on the reference, and click on 'additional actions' - the only option I have is Options. I have already Enabled additional actions, and the box for Logos Bible Software (Bible references) is checked.

I do I actually activate this action?  

thanks

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 9:01 AM

Hugh DeLong:
OK - I reinstalled Office 365, this time with the 32bit version. In the  add-ins window, it shows Logos Bible Software (L4SmrTg.dll) as an active application.

Make sure that 'Replace with Passage' is ticked in System Preferences-Keyboard-Shortcuts and that the shortcut is changed to Cmd+Opt+Ctl+E

Open a word document and type a reference (1), select the reference (2) and apply the shortcut (3).

Voila!

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Mike

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Hugh DeLong | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 9:35 AM

and on a win10 PC?

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