"Run as Administrator" -- Getting a little annoying....

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James Thompson | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010 11:33 AM

I have noticed that increasingly with every new update I've had to right click the icon on my desktop and select "Run as administrator" for the program to properly install the update. This is an ongoing issue that I thought was promised to be resloved by L 4.0c. I've read several posts that offer work arounds like "rename the original install directory create a new one and copy all files into it" . Most workarounds I've seen basically suggest we get used to it and right click and select run as administrator all the time. My personal problem is that these workarounds are just that workarounds. I don't think they address the real problem. I've done nothing to incurr this, I think. My home machine works fine, my work machine worked fine until a few updates ago and now I have to go through this process to udpate the program. Since a lot of customers are having this issue I'm assuming (rightly or wrongly) Logos is it's primary cause.

In the scheme of things, this is not a great big problem, just bothersome which means it's probably a low priority item. But can we be given some fix that doesn't require me to copy my entire directory or just get used to it? Thanks!

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Praiser | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 12:01 PM

James Thompson:
I have noticed that increasingly with every new update I've had to right click the icon on my desktop and select "Run as administrator" for the program to properly install the update

 

What operating system are you running? 

I have Vista on my desktop and XP on my laptop and I have never run into this problem. It must have something to do with your settings??

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James Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 12:16 PM

Praiser:

What operating system are you running? 

I have Vista on my desktop and XP on my laptop and I have never run into this problem. It must have something to do with your settings??

I have Win 7 on both systems: 32 bit on my home computer and 64 bit on my work computer. I've done nothing (at least not consciously/intentional) to change my settings, as many have indicated who have this problem -- how does this occur in the first place? But the real question is how to fix it, really fix it?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 4:38 PM

James Thompson:
But the real question is how to fix it, really fix it?

The secret is to install without Admin privilege ("run as administrator") ie. in your normal user account whether it is Admin user or Standard user and with UAC enabled. That way, if L4 needs Admin privilige it will prompt you (in a Standard user account this means knowing & entering the Admin password). I've installed L4 in a Standard user account without any issues on updates.

The fix therefore is to uninstall L4 from Control Panel, delete the \Logos4 folder and reinstall. A custom install will simplify the path eg. specify C:\Logos and L4 will install to C:\Logos\Logos4, specify C:\ and it will install to C:\Logos4.

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Sir Maru | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2010 6:16 PM

James,

You can change it in the UAC (User Account Control) in the Control Panel.  However, it is there for a reason to prevent malware from self-installing on the PC and to prevent errant software from embedding in one's system..  Prior to Windows 7 64 bit, malware could easily enter a system and destroy it.  This new control is a safeguard against it.

Frankly, of 40 applications I had on my old XP 32 bit system only 34 made it to Win7 64 bits.  In the end the system blocked all suspicious software and I'm just accepting it.  Luckily all my business programs made it to Win7.  I'll just live without the others.  In the future I'll check forums first before buying.

Programs should NOT change system programs or affect the disc.  This new Win7 feature prevents that.  However, for backup programs, it will always be necessary to approve every run since they do change the archive bit of every program they backup.

When I ran the Logos 4 setup program, it stopped its run with a C++ error message sent by Win7.  The setup program I had was from January and there may have been problems then.  I downloaded the new one but will wait to try an install for awhile to be sure all the proper corrections have been made to Logos.4.

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