Purchasing Bible versions for use in Proclaim

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Aaron McCracken | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 25 2020 5:16 AM

Hi

I just want to check. If I purchase a bible version can other users in my church group use it when they are compiling services in Proclaim?

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 25 2020 6:21 AM

I don't think so Aaron, the bible versions link back to your personal Logos library and the resources you own there.

The good news is that Logos Bibles are quite inexpensive and folk involved with worship planning are likely to want their own copy for reading plans, personal study etc.

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Sean Metcalfe (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 25 2020 7:23 AM

Hi Aaron,

Outside of the bibles that come with Proclaim their are some restrictions on how we are able to share content. As odd as it sounds these Bibles are still under copyright use with the publisher and we have not arrange for all bibles to be used by more than one person. That being said, in Logos when you purchase a bible it is registered to the one user account (username/email) and only usable by that one user account unless you were to purchase that version of the bible for multiple accounts. Many Churches create either a generic account others can login to for the presentation team (e.g. mediateam@church.com) as well as have the personal emails of members can use to login. With a shared email you can make the purchase of additional bible versions under the generic account for others to upload if needed.  

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Aaron McCracken | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 11:46 AM

Thank you Sean & Mike

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MWW | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 26 2020 5:14 PM

Personally, I think it is rather silly to make people serving in a church's media ministry to have to purchase Bibles under their own user ID to use in Proclaim. It is not like anyone is going to be using Proclaim for their own personal use! If they are using those Bibles in Logos or the FaithLife Bible app or the web app, then they should have to purchase them, but not to use in Proclaim. If anything the cost of the Bibles should be included in the church's Proclaim subscription fee.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 12:12 AM

MWW:
If anything the cost of the Bibles should be included in the church's Proclaim subscription fee.

Please don't make the cost of subscribing to Proclaim any more onerous because a church won't invest a less than a tenner for each of its worship team that is likely to have to initiate the inclusion of a bible verse that has to match exactly the translation in general use.

It is not as if there are no Bibles included with Proclaim including, for those with an anti'u' proclivity, the excellent LEB and, the ASB.

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MWW | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 1:50 AM

Mike Binks:
because a church won't invest a less than a tenner for each of its worship team

I’m not in agreement at all. Your implication is that we are being cheap. When it is not like as a church that we don’t already invest significantly in our media ministry, which includes paying for a FAITHLIFE Equip/Proclaim annual subscription. As a church we use the NKJV as our primary version. which is one of the more commonly used Bible versions these days, but is not included in the Proclaim subscription. So should we have to invest $60 more because we rotate 6 media team people? I don’t think so! FAITHLIFE should just make all versions available with the subscription or charge a one time 1 user fee with the Proclaim subscription. To make us pay $10 for each version for each user at a single location is insane.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 2:00 AM

MWW:
FAITHLIFE should just make all versions available with the subscription or charge a one time 1 user fee with the Proclaim subscription. To make us pay $10 for each version for each user at a single location is insane.

We know that Logos negotiated only single-user licenses for many years. You don't know which Bibles to which they have the rights for group licenses. Give them the benefit of the doubt or find out what the actual facts of the situation are, please.

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MWW | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 2:48 AM

MJ. Smith:
Give them the benefit of the doubt or find out what the actual facts of the situation are, please.

Sorry, I was just expressing my opinion. But condescension received - thank you!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 4:33 AM

MWW:
To make us pay $10 for each version for each user at a single location is insane.

I don't know about your folk but we moved from the NIV '84 to NIV '11 and lot weren't keen but most actually signed up to buy a personal bible in the new translation. They would have been delighted to get a copy for less than £10.

The team involved with Proclaim just bought their version digitally and got a bargain in every sense of the word.

It also worth noting that the text of the NKJV is available on-line and can be copied and pasted into a content item in exceptional circumstances.

If Faithlife were to include, in the subscription, all the translations that might be required for as many folk as the church would like to sign up as co-presenters I imagine that the business model would soon collapse under the weight of the licences costs.

That really would be insane.

I think, from the list I posted above, that Faithlife are not stingy with their offering and have provided all the translations that it is economically viable to provide.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 27 2020 1:59 PM

MWW:
But condescension received - thank you!

None was sent ... not sure where along the way it got picked up.Sad

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