Is Faithlife self-supporting?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 20 2021 4:40 PM

xnman:
if I somehow loose my connection to FL... 

When you have been on the FL forums for a while, you will learn we have several members actively watching that FL not forget that they support missionaries without access to the internet for months on end. It's one of many advantages of our international, multi-denominational community.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Bernhard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 3:00 AM

Wild Eagle:
In China Bibles are forbidden, we are heading toward this direction - CCP.

Actually - that is not true. As with everything in China, the situation is complicated, but as it stands, this statement is wrong.

In reality, the biggest printing press printing Bibles worldwide is located in Nanjing, China. It is not only printing Bibles for the Chinese market, but for many other countries as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amity_Foundation#:~:text=The%20Amity%20Printing%20Company%20(APC%2C%20Chinese%3A%20%E7%88%B1%E5%BE%B7%E5%8D%B0%E5%88%B7,a%20press%20donated%20by%20UBS.

The Chinese Bible translation that is printed there is the same that is used by Chinese Protestant Christians worldwide. In China it is used both by the government-sanctioned Three-Self-Church and the non-approved "house-churches". My only problem with that translation is that it is getting a bit outdated. They do print at least one other more recent translation, but there is not much demand for that. They also print Bibles for a couple of minority languages. Smartphone Bible apps and websites with the Bible are also available (and of course Logos can be accessed).

In China the Bible is considered material for internal use of the church and should be distributed only through church-internal channels. For a few years those rules were not enforced and the Bibel was available on all of the big internet shopping sites. A couple of years ago that changed, when the government told those sites to take all sales of Bibles and probably other church-published materials down. It can still be bought inside the official churches. Bible translation in further minority languages is definitely not something that the government will support. 

There are a lot of quality Christian books published outside the official church and they can be freely traded. There are Christian book stores in many cities in China (but they might not be able to sell the Bible, at least not officially). Some topics can be hard to publish this way, as one needs approval for each book. With many things tightening in China in the last couple of years, it also getting harder to get that approval.

Overall, it is certainly true that religious freedom is limited in China - but the situation is sometimes better and certainly more complicated than is often assumed in the West. Things are also constantly changing and depend a lot on local leadership - the general direction for the last 3 years or so has definitely been for the worst. At the same time, there is a vibrant church in China that is standing on its own feet. 

See also

https://www.chinasource.org/resource-library/articles/bibles-in-china/ 

https://www.chinasource.org/resource-library/chinese-church-voices/chinese-bible-printing-in-china/ 

and everything else on that website Smile

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Christopher Bucklin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 7:18 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Let me be clear:

On-topic: "Does Faithlife use AWS?" "If AWS sent Faithlife a letter saying their account would be shut down in 24 hours, how would users access their books?" "What is Faithlife's disaster recovery plan?" "How do I install Logos offline?" "How do I use Logos completely offline so it's not dependent on any Internet services?" "What would be the impact if Internet giants turn off Faithlife servers?"

These are concrete questions...

As for me, someone who has invested thousands into faithlife, I would be extremely grateful if all of these questions above could be answered one by one, in detail, either in this forum, or perhaps better as part of a FAQ accessed through the main page. If this were to be done adaquately, this thread would not exist.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 9:05 AM

Christopher Bucklin:
"How do I install Logos offline?"

For Faithlife account login verification, license syncing and resource downloads, online connection is required. Currently not know of a way for new installation offline (years ago, Logos 4 had optical media for offline installation so resources could be scanned from media, which is not practical as Faithlife now offers over 100,000 digital resources)

Christopher Bucklin:
"How do I use Logos completely offline so it's not dependent on any Internet services?"

After all desired resources are downloaded to desktop app on Windows or macOS, change Program Settings for Use Internet from Yes to No.

Logos Wiki => Logos 9 Online Only Features and => Logos 8 Online Only Features documents what is not usable when Use Internet is No. Thankful for Logos Help & Verbum Help including [Net] for feature description that requires internet access.

Christopher Bucklin:
"What would be the impact if Internet giants turn off Faithlife servers?"

Recommend changing desktop app Program Settings for Use Internet from Yes to No

May want to download any interesting support and Logos Wiki pages before internet access goes away: e.g.

Thankful for macOS Not Supported method being viable to clone an existing Logos/Verbum installation without needing internet access on my personal Mac models (does need copies of Logos/Verbum Application Bundle, corresponding Application Support folder, and hidden user folders)

Keep Smiling Smile

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xnman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 21 2021 12:44 PM

Thanks Keep Smiling!   That helps my confidence a bunch!

Just proves the Bible is right again.... Mat 7:7... 

xn = Christan  man=man

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Greg | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 27 2021 5:32 AM

Rene Atchley:
Thus spoke the prophet Q....in his drop

Not even close: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists

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